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What's the cheapest, logical route to dye my Hyd fluid? I googled but some are sorta pricey. Something small as I don't need to ad fluid for now. Tightwad fix is my best choice always.

I have that one but never weighed it. I filled mine with crushed rock and store my logging chains on top the rock where it's settled in. I keep my drawbars and a spudbar in the holes mades into my box corners and at times a shovel/rake, etc.. I also have a ball hitch used for hay wagon pulling...

My 4820R came with a left fender dual cupholder. Buy that as a part?

I have a 1/2 mile of mostly very steep private road I've maintained for 45 years. I had a blade only for years and it works VG, my previous tractor I got a 72" Land Pride box scraper in the deal and never use the blade since then. The only rock which fills a pothole or stays put anywhere period...

In the interest of being current you need to read up on the transition from Branson to TYM branding. Bluntly stated, the FB Branson Compact tractor Group has current dealer sourced information towards this notion. It covers warranty, dealer changeovers and much more. There are great members...

It's not gonna be regional by brand. It is a transition from two brands to one. many dealers have commented toward this on the FB Branson Group page. Tym is it down the road, brand wise.

I find the FB Branson Group discussion towards the TYM/Branson business to be far more up to date and factual than what I gleaned from here. It has candid comments from dealers & business reps and honestly just less conjecture toward the subject. Not trying to criticize anyone, just saying...

I've found the terminal gizmo with the short brush to be junk, no matter who sold it. The brush breaks off and is too small for long term use as the brush gets buggered up fast. Buy a full sized SS, wood handled, hand brush from Lowes and after removing all connections brush the terminals...

If a tractor has reversable wheels it's designed to operate in either mode (bearings, etc.) other than a specific agricultural need to remain narrow in the row, wide is always better. If you use a FEL or certain other attachments, loaded tires is the far better weight placement than a weight...

I don't pick up brush nor am I a landscaper. What few times I move some brush I can easily push aside it with forks. I'm not clearing land and when I have, I hired a dozer for logical purposes. Grapples cost thousands more than a set of VG forks and don't take away any of your FEL lift...

Mill-it's a commonly seen early model Woodmizer LT15 from ~ 2000 year model & mills setup under a shed roof. The cabin I'll post when it's got a roof. We live in a much larger one I built in 1979-80 when I was much more of a man than whats left now. I'm on log layer #19 right now which is...

I've got a bit over a hundred hours on my Branson 4820R now, plus what it had when hauled in, so now around 180+ hours. I've had zero issues to date. I use the tractor daily in the past year as I've been either logging, sawmilling, handling lumber or since spring involved with a personal remote...

I'm buying a $15 2" ball coupler x 3" wide which has bolt holes in two directions so a cheap, easy adaption that can be reversed back to original. I've already got too many various hitch gizmos all ready.

I'll be towing with some angles involved, but not such that a ball doesn't work as my Gatormade utility trailers been everywhere this wagon will be going. The issue is the wagon has an undamaged OE tongue end which has a very large hole such that as I stated, no pins large enough to not jiggle...

I rebuilt an old David Bradley 4T hay wagon running gear. Wheel bearings, painted wheels and frame, added all new wood. It has the original tongue which is OK but has the large hole for hitching which is too large for use of most drawbar pins and too sloppy using a clevis. My wagon will be...

Using the date of it's manufacture, the parts being the same for both engines sizes makes sense, or at least it once did. I have too few hours to mess with that idea.

Doesn't say. I don't do a lot of things.

There's a dealer from MO on the FB Branson group who has a picture of a "Branson Dealer lighted sign" for sale-no other comments in the ad. The sign is laying against a tree, not out on a building or pole.

I vote for a metallurgy issue-that drawbar should handle what you were doing easily. Compare to a typical PU hitch and the tractors bar is far heavier.

FWIW, I can run a 8 or 9" timber screw into a heavy oak beam with a Dewalt cordless driver and a Torx bit. No pre-drilling, no beating, no lube jobs and seriously strong.

FWIW: My 4820R is at ~ 109 hours and has never done a regen yet.

Branson Bob-you say 12" spikes? I built our home in 1979-80 using 3/8 x 12" spikes (they are a common nail style) which was common practice for stack log homes back then. I pre-drilled mine with a 5/16 bit, beat them in with a 6#, short handled sledge. Since then I've used pole barn spikes a...

When this jumbling of brands within a production "arena" takes place, we lose the ability to have the most responsive dealers. As the parts get subjugated between the brands and we the owners lose in the end. When I worked for Goodyear Tire Plant they made multiple brands but thats not the same...

General Motors? FOMOCO & Lincoln?

My point was to say that they won't sell more tractors if they continue to mess over certain TYM/Branson dealers with whom they have contracts for territorial sales areas. Allowing the "other brand" (of a same overall mfg of tractor) into an established dealers territory is not good business...

Thats the red I've seen as a decent rattle can match in the Branson FB Group.

Begs the answer to why they had both brand names to begin with? Not that I care if parts are good situ. Best if they don't mess over dealers of certain brands nor fail to respect brand retail coverage zones-which they have already done before anyway per a dealer conversation I had.

No, I'm neither stupid nor do I have full or partial coverage on many things. My KY farm bureau covers 10% of my homes value over out buildings and contents. They are two separate bldgs, storage barn vs. woodworking shop & across the road from each other, so I "sort of have coverage but reality...

Most oil seals are generic and measurable to source them.

This thread greatly resembles a huge number of motorcycle threads from what's now been quite a few years of discussions since LED's came out. The entire thing of night pictures of this light vs. that one, heat sinks vs. fans and on & on. I stand by my previous comments that they are of less...

Coke is spotty many locations and several reasons. Walmart will have something Krogers doesn't have and vise versa. Some chains have some items because of shelf space allocations-deals made way over the head of a store mgr. Aluminum cans have been in short supply for a very long time-some have...

With motorcycles and scooters there's the incentive to bolster a lower output charging system and gain light when fewer HL's etc. are involved, plus the idiot factor towards those who pull out in front of riders so often. With my tractor I'm in that retired and no dark work to speak of...

Chipmunks: I used to run a trapline years ago in KS, so I know how to trap. I use live traps around my house and barn for rodents and have seen multiple catches in one setting of a Ketch-All brand spring loaded trap. Chipmunks are too large for those I've got so I've tried a slightly larger wire...

My concern down the road on the tie rod area is that Bransons have zero guards used to protect the rubber boots. I do the boots listed as a separate part though which isn't true for my Kioti's nor Kubotas which had guards but asked us to buy a complete tie rod assembly, no boots alone. They will...

Not liking either of those in my raised bed gardens soil. Back when most things came in glass containers I worked in a supermarket. When both were broken in proximity it was bad air for sure.

We have a raised bed garden in front of our house that's about 10' x 30', has oak beams for edges and last few years has been chipmunk city! They eat much of what's in there. I had a strawberry pyramid on one end that did well until they moved in and I eventually took it down giving up as they...

Years ago when I was a golf caddy the greenskeepers used the same gas that was once used in KY, where I live now, to fumigate tobacco plant beds. The plants are grown differently now but I suspect that same poison gas is still sold for pest control? In California it might be a much different...

Empty shelves are a national discussion that gets real political, real fast. Groceries we go to are Kroger's and Walmart and a small local IGA-lots of most items but there have been shortages of certain things for a long time. One e.g. is Coca-Cola-the Walmart mgr told me that it's being...

Think again as Walmart has nearly zero (as in zero!) spray paints now near me. It was mostly full a couple of weeks ago, bare shelves now. I've never seen that shelf bare before but maybe same as many other items lately?

My bush hog gets used about 6-8 hours annually since bought in 2006. That's less use than many use for one year? I have not looked under it this year though but will do so. Right now it does run very smoothly, no vibration as would suggest a rotary vibration at all.

Called- "Branson Compact Tractor Owners Group for the best group! You can look at both and easily see that one is basically a sales device, it's called " Branson Tractor Enthusiasts" as no postings other than Bransons for sale on there. It's never had anything but an add on it from my looks and...

I've owned some tractors that were easier than others. One of my Kiotis was a head banger. The Branson I can climb onto the bush hog and stand astried of the shaft then step down into nasty land to couple the thing. The way in which the upper rear link swings aside helps to get down in there...

After I took the coupler apart today and cleaned it up it's cooperating and slides on and engages easily now. Between old hands and slick parts and a coupler drive shaft that was sluggish with old grease I'm back in business. I do agree with others who like the old style better. Not buying the...

Yesterday afternoon in the hot sun I'd decided to hook up my Bush Hog for todays work before I quit. People-this is certainly not my first rodeo to hook up a PTO shaft! I've cussed them some then once I'd cleaned it up and lubed the splines and such it was not undoable at all. Yesterday was...

That picture caught my eye based on the absence of the sealing gasket itself, not the piece of black stuff you called RTV silicone.

In the FB Branson tractors group there is a sticky which includes downloadable pdf's of several Branson manuals. One is the 20 series Service manual which is like 311 pages long. Interestingly, I see nobody but me on the FB group from here but that does mean it's got potential for new info...

I'll share this caution & tip when installing a new hydraulic filter on your Branson. The lipped rubber sealing ring on the filters is loose in it's groove and easily falls off while handling the filter. As I opened the box it was readily obvious that it's loose and un-retained in any way. To...

Many chain choices out there and not all with the same clearance's needed. A neighbor of mine logs his own land and tractor stays off road-he had to weld chains onto rears to make them work-nother brand of tractor though.

Thanks for the filter reference. I just googled both numbers and the WIX 51626 is ~ a 1/2" longer. Good catch! I may look a bit further on that part for down the road. The filters I use on my Kohler are nearly twice as large as the pricey OE tiny ones and increase oil volume & filtration for...

Today I attached a toolbox to the cross piece that was holding my SMV sign. I removed the sign as I don't go on road. I drilled holes in the top of the sheetmetal crosspiece and toolbox. It is a very light gauge of steel so not useful for much weight. The toolbox I used came with the tractor and...

Today on my Branson: Finished changing the fluids for 50 hours service-except I ran out of hydraulic fluid as it's too pricey in my small rural area-so it sits for now. The front axle was barely low when I drained it. The hydraulic filter you need to watch the seal rubber as it can fall off...

Most places are short of people and material lately. I watched a TV "fluff piece" yesterday about the ports and factories and such. They never went political which is highly political in itself. Pretty much turned the national shortages into a trucking only problem which falls far short of the...

From what I read that manual is showing pretty decent English and it's very understandable language- it's informational specifics that it lacks, not poorly translated information which was my point! You are sort of preaching to the choir on manuals? I've owned and ridden motorcycles and cars...

What I've done Branson wise is to read through the entire so-called manual. The info that really matters in this sucky document could be placed on an under the hood sticker- Really! Seriously, it never even mentions my model-a 4820R, only the 20 Series coverage and some other models, not my...

The $300 might be beat by a rollback service? In my area I can move a tractor for a $100 one way on a rollback-but this is a low cost labor area. The TN & NC Branson dealers I talked with were building that into the price and free for their delivery miles they adhere to. That also meant I paid...

Your saying he tractor will move in one direction or the other in that senario, when "frozen". I got a bit confused though as one poster has a 3620R shuttle while you show a 3620H?

SO-> place on level ground and attempt to gently place the shuttle lever in either forward or reverse position to gain motion of the tractor? Sounds tough to make happen if the tractor doesn't move under it's own power based on a stuck shifter? other than to roll down a convenient slope in...

In the world we live in, there are far too many who go ballistic over not much? On FB tractor groups it's nearly a weekly thing. I had a lady who went zonkers over me pointing out she'd offered more for a chair than it was listed for. I kindly told her such, along with fact that my wife had...

Shipping is common, how much when delivered is the crux of buying bulky heavy items. I often use free ship to store items and pick them up when we go on a walmart grocery run-a 50k RT. An e.g. is I found, in a quick web search that a certain AC/Delco oil filter was cheaper at Advance AP's than...

Warren also mfg.'s the Rural King oils. There are mdf's available if your into details. The Providence HD full syn oil I use is a full pkg proper oil. Asking dealers what brand to use is OK but not how I play. TSC's full syn tractor fluid is good stuff in my book. Walmart, last time I checked...

Service ( an area I know very well from work and training schools career) is a huge source of income for the wheeled vehicle industry and much more. The idea that any dealer will pass up a chance to make money they depend on and legally committed to provide, is ludicrous and an often wasted...

The TSC fluid is being used in many high dollar tractors-that's a fact. As an "oil thread" this is no doubt highly disscussionable... :LOL:

Rural King has a bunch of tractor fluids in various brands and sometimes beats TSC's prices- I use their "Providence" full syn HD engine oil but they don't seem to have Full or blended synthetic fluid-only dino which is OK too . My rear weight ballast box is from Titan. Was cheap and well...

Equipment trailer rentals are easy and cheap. I'll trailer something that saves me thousands of dollars. Under $400 to save thousands is a no-brainer. Many, many car powersports, motorcycle and tractor dealers either meet people at airports or arrange or provide shipments. I've talked to many...

Skill sets are both a blessing and a curse. The drafting teacher at my tech school job nicknamed me: "The triple/AAA Man" since I was always tasked with getting three teenage drivers dead vehicles back home as it were then. I do have many skill sets and thrown in with being the child of...

I do wish members (like the above guy) would give us a notion of their geographic location!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks!

In a somewhat related discussion of brand dealers vs. distributors and brand reps I learned via personal conversations with TYM, Branson and Kioti dealers (all brands I was interested in at the time) that in todays climate of poor to non-existent inventories and poor parts availability there are...

Not to complain about the above post at all, but why does tractorbynet persist in having a forum headed under the Century tractor brand name which google tells me they became defunct in 2003 and when many of us own a current Kukje product called Branson? FWIW, when I recently searched for other...

Are the listed above 20 Series Branson service & parts links fully applicable to my 2021 4820R to be useful, or should I wait for something later?

Which TSC red? They have 3 or 4. I'll try some of my TSC International Tractor red and report back sometime soon. BTW, It-gls- was on sale a couple months back and it is a very high quality paint in the bulk cans. Far cheaper than an AB supply house paint. Torvy- I was a history buff from an...

Stiff pedals: spray with some serious lube magic like a powdered lube product such as a moly-kote product (slicker than graphite!) or similar-something in a carrier fluid or grease that will sick in the sweet spot on the pedal linkage joints.

You can be a homebody and still chase the best deal? There are no fast foods, red lights, very few business's, jobs of most any kind except a school system, quarry, logging and the like here. But, when I need something I go fetch it. My tractor came from MO-private sale (~ 475k one way-cost me...

No problemo. I am so far from being **** about cleaning on a tractor, it's not worth saying-> but when I see chipped paint I will do a touch up even on a tractor. When I showed my Kioti a few days ago to the 1st person it sold in 5 minutes. Appearance matters as it's indicative of those who...

Liquid ballast applies weight to the outer tread with different dynamics than does a axle centric wheel weight. This matters in the physics of that weight as rears are very large diameter. The rears still "squoosh down" to make traction, even with fluid in them and the ballast is at the point of...

I said->>>>alcohol packaged as RV winterizer is typically more expensive than either beet juice or methanol-you mis-read my post. Rim-guard pricing is like the tractor prices-it's all over the place but generally cost effective choice given it's weight per gallon. Some RV fluid is far lower...

What I intended to become useful information already happened mostly, but now we have a color related festival. The test I used was called color differentiation as I recall from ~ 25 yrs ago when I ran a testing center. various colors and related hues were somewhat buried within printed pages...

Somebody's either color blind or got a burr in their saddle? FWIW, many males lack good definition of reds/greens. I used to do color definition testing for employment and tech education purposes and though I'm not an eye doc for sure, I did learn that people do have variable abilities to see...

FWIW, in the off season I watch for Walmart RV antifreeze to be sold on clearance and the least I've ever seen was $2 jug. Compared to beet juice or methanol it's much more expensive. Note that on beet juice I didn't say I knew it was corrosive-I said a tractor tire serviceman who does tire...

I need you to make my decisions from now on, such as when to call vs. messing with valve stems & guessing how much of what they placed in the tire vs. a trully definitive answer. Really?

The Messicks tire ballast fluid chart calls for 55 gallons for a 17.5x24 rear R4 tire. I know this-if I ride my tractor two miles to a rock quarry scales I'll know exactly the weight! The guy that did the fluid says they have seen wheel corrosion that they know came from beet juice. Many place...

Well that dealer called me back and said the private seller must have had it placed in the tires after the sale as they don't do that. He went on to say that Branson actually recommends against using any tire fluid ballast which is very wrong minded IMO, for a tractor with a FEL. We all know it...

Calcium chloride is archaic and virtually never used these days and for good reason. Rotted rims were very commonly seen-I know from personal experience! Dealers don't all do ballast fluid themselves. I just called the Park City, KS dealers principal guy and he said he doesn't do the fluid...

At Rural King yesterday i saw that they sell a red enamel paint labeled for their red RK tractors. Is that a color match for my Branson or not? Just curious for now. Also what matches the dark gray charcoal on lift arms area? I know well how to match paints from much previous AB work-just...

I called the dealer/seller of my Branson 4820R which sold new 4/29/21 then used from a private seller last week to me. Only to ask which type of ballast fluid and how much it had? The seller knew it had fluid-nothing more. The young kid in service said they don't "do" the fluid, the tractors...

I was in a Rural King today and in looking at tractor paints they sell a red enamel labeled for RK tractors. Question being, is "RK Red"- the same color as Branson red? I bought a gallon of TSC enamel on sale awhile back in International Tractor red to paint a hay wagon gear. It's really close...

Some few funnels actually have ribs on the conical section to permit free flow- it outa be a law huh? You can stick a screwdriver in there with the funnel snout to make for some live action... My HF diesel re-fueling pump will work OK with hyd fluid or any oil based fluid, just not gasoline. I...

It's easy to be patient when you don't have time to run the tractor or tear stuff up... :D

I'm patiently waiting to see an updated 20 Series service manual for my 2021 4820R Branson tractor... I have the owners manual now.

I'm not much of an extended warranty lover as the math should lean in the sellers direction or they will go broke over time. A personal decision that sells well I suppose on many things, esp stuff that goes zoom. Thats why every vehicle you buy you get to dance with the business manager /finance...

WIX Filters- the tech line lady told me the "C" was the issue in their filter not crossing over to Bransons number with the "C". Makes me wonder if the filtration, i.e. flow rate has changed over time, while physical size has remained the same? Either way the price on the OE filter is...

I just called an online Branson dealer in AR- Sherwood which gave me the above Hyd filter parts number of TA00025525C which I found no crossover Number for at main filter mfg.'s in USA. The issues is not to match dimensions, flow rate is the challenge. I talked with both CS reps and engineers...

I seriously doubt the fault lies with the operator. Bumper stickers have explained this well for many years IMO. In CA, land of all of the above , that should be easy to make from scratch as mentioned above.

HIFI is the Euro filter mfg. that does list the 4820R hyd filter as : SH56153. All specifics and dimensions are provided along with flow rates so it should be an easy match-or not- if someone knows the specs for a Branson OE Hyd filter? Based on the above info sounds like I'll avoid aftermarket...

Correct for my 4820R on the 2nd number, it has only the one hyd filter. I began crossing the hyd filter # yesterday and fell asleep from too much highway time yesterday afternoon... It does cross but i quit at that point. Wix said the "C" aspect kept them from having a crossover number-whatever...

I just called WIX and they do not make a cross-reference Hyd filter for my 4820R tractor. The correct Branson , 4820R cartridge Hyd filter # is: TA00025525C per a dealer parts desk, the HST 20 series requires two hyd filters

My 2010 DK35SE has the good ones with flimsy chains. Lowes sells a small strong welded link chain. It's like 800#'s test and I've used it to hang porch swings in spite of the size.

FB has two Branson groups-one with great participation, more than on here really. If your a owner/shopper for Branson- of the two groups one has some manual pdf's listed as "files" on it's home page. Here it's prefaced by Century which I gotta say I've never heard of a Century tractor? There are...

The nearest Dodge dealer to me owns many dealerships including Toyota in several KY towns. He has a bunch of auction cars at his nearest dodge lot and like most dealers now has a cars wanted sign up as well. How many they have to sell in todays world is relevant to much more than quality. Before...

As I only have two chain tighteners, can I use an open style clevis fixed to the end of the tractors center drawbar? The chain could then slide through the clevis as it's tightened on one leg of the pull. I see know other area on the tractors rear which allows the chain to slide as it's cinched...

There is no easy way to know what a tractors worth in todays market (or in any market). Web numbers are often not final sale numbers! Dealers should know values but if your trading that factors in behind the scenes plus the volatile markets of todays merchandise are crazy. There are very few...

LOL in looking on lots lately... Huge car dealers often have what few used auction cars they can find parked every which way to make the lot look like it has something. Quality vs. abundance?-that's a new way to think! people buy junky stuff everyday in abundance which would make for a silly...

It's not a "Kioti thing", it's a "many things problem" to not have manufactured goods worldwide. Supply chains are disrupted by closed ports, slow ports, greatly increased raw materials prices(over 200% on steel), no raw materials at all, lack of skilled labor, lack of unskilled labor, lazy ass...

In my many dealer contacts of 3 brands, I learned that there is much friction, "bad business" going on between Asian mfg.'s, USA distributors and their dealer networks. Favoritism, flat out broken contracts on dealer network areas and much, much more. Kioti has many dealers with basically no...

I'm jumping ship from orange to red! I bought a 2021 Branson 4820R barely used @ 78 hours over the phone and pick it up in MO come Monday. It has steps on both sides. Fuel tank is located under the left step area. It compares well with the DK4510 I was waiting to come to a dealer I'd buy from...

Per my seller her original dealer in KS is emailing her manual which she is having a print shop run for me when I pick up come Monday. I have no idea as yet, if the FEL is in that manual. Her stiff shift comment came from my question as to anything in/op or been repaired-that was the only thing...

FWIW: I'm jumping ship from orange to red. Buying a 2021 barely used Branson 4820R.

I heard from several here and I thank you! I made a deal over the phone for a private sale 2021 4820R last night, has 78 hours, used for haying and I'll need to fetch it from MO where it lives now. I just posted here in regard to her manuals getting damaged in transit and my need for all of them...

As of last night, I made a private sale deal over the phone for a 2021 4820R tractor with 78 hours. It has 1 front set & 2 rear set remotes, a dealer installed ($600 on invoice) canopy, rear tire ballast fluid and FEL & bucket. It's only been used for haying and mowing so far. The seller...

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Walmart and AP's boxstore's will load test your battery for free. I mostly buy Walmart batteries as they are cheaper and easier to get warranty service. At times in the past I went with other brands based on specials but Walmarts usually got them all beat. Lowe's is worth a look/see if you get a...

Can be applied world wide in fact. That said, I'm proud to be an American and trying to buy a tractor today made in Korea... I had a Middle eastern oral surgeon yesterday along with a hillbilly student dentist then a few minutes ago I got a call from A Mexican-American lady who is clerk for an...

When I was re-building wrecks the story often was the buyer telling me i was hiding something cause "every wreck has a secret damaged area" or that they knew what I should be asking pricewise/ When Carfax came out it became that they knew what I didn't know and so on. Actually CL is still a...

A new valve vs. an older used valve could be involved in the lever feel-to some degree.

I would appreciate hearing your price paid for this specific model with FEL & Bucket, fluid in tires(or not) no taxes or any other item included. Feel free to PM me if you'd rather not post openly on the forever web. Thanks

Feel free to PM me as I bought wrecks around the USA for many years and transported them most times, not all as some had low cost commercial transport. Many!!! out of state dealers make out of state deliveries to maintain volume sales which gets then units to build business. Any locale is likely...

And I'll add that there seems to be a quite "liberal supply of liberal's" anywhere ya go. Also many so-called best schools around the USA & world. Back to tractors...

I dislike the RV style step for price and overall design-my RV has same/similar one thats OK for that use. . Compact step per pic above would be fine. I have aftermarket steps on my F-150 at the front of the bed-both sides. They are well designed and cost less than OE. They fold upwards via...

I see a fuel tank protector but no right step. Here ya go sort of huh? And if I ever do buy a DK4510 as I'm looking at TYM & Branson as we speak. TYM is said to have more availablility than Branson and Kioti has not much right now where the price is right. Time will tell. I don't "drive over 3'...

I will be either dead & gone or setting records for oldest tractor man in 30 years.:p I goota say you have the USD value ass backwards at increasing 20% since 2018. I bought some Walmart Kahn's German Bologna today and one version had increased from $2.96lb to $5.43lb. At he eye doc I was told...

Do you tire ballast fluid? A long time Kioti dealer, who's a fan of HST and uses one himself by choice, he told me that many users will push the HST pedal hard (typical pedal to the metal mentality) when asking for what I'll call "UMPH" when they should actually back off and allow the HST to...

My first Kioti was a DK40 I bought off a dealer in GA on Ebay auction. Costs lots less than $17,800 for sure. It was barely used and the guy was selling it for his daughter from her divorce- as I recall it was a 2004 model? I'd still own it if it had had a FEL. I sold it on CL and delivered it...

Of course it does as loggers use winches all the time when the skid roads don't allow getting good stuff out without them. However, realize that at nearly 78 years old I'm not a FT logger nor am I logically going to spend big bucks for a winch to assist my logging work. I'm an active guy who...

Odds are your correct of course as to owning both brands at once, etc., but fact is that people who work in tractors professionally do read some of this stuff and know what's what in tractor details. Be open minded huh? Fact is between crappy mfg,s websites for the TYM & Branson tractors and...

FWIW, with my DK35SE, when you split the tractor the fuel tank must be removed after the FEL & hood is removed. I assume the low down tanks might stay with the tractor when split? Plus easier to fill-but I use a pump. In the woods and rough fields the low tanks might be damaged? I've read of...

I do agree that traction becomes the issue on heavy log pulls more so than hp based on wheel spin. I mostly never pull a trailer with my tractor. I am in process on rebuilding (wheel bearings & paint) an old hay wagon gear that's done now except for me to log and saw some white oak stringers and...

FWIW, I'm also looking at TYM & Branson and both models I like have R&L steps. In the woods it's very common to need a step on either side and it makes sense for those times when we are working solo and need to get off at one side to do 3pt hookups, etc.. The fuel tank doesn't keep other brands...

Regarding the basic idea of "Buying a Branson" which is of specific & timely interest to me, I'll ask this: Why shop Branson vs. TYM? or vice versa? I am finding that the models don't cross over exactly the same packages but engines are all the same in whatever package. Also I've seen several...

I'm good with the above. As a senior I do tend to cut to the chase some. My heads certainly not in the sand for technology as I am a former skilled trades person and retired tech educator. I've had 5+ careers and can easily be called an "around the block guy". I've been trained as a helo mech...

I can tell you that any tractor that the engine labors much with a FEL & rear attachments isn't really a tractor. The basic design of any tractor is a machine that is geared rather low and having large rear tires for pulling power-obviously to replace animals that pulled. Taking that notion...

My purpose was to learn what IS different specifically as the website for Bobcat tractors sucks on details that matter. I already know the generalities of who owns which company, etc.. As of today I'm leaning towards the TYM or Branson brands (unlike Dedong vs. Bobcat they actually combined) but...

One things for sure-she knows. Now back to my topic... :LOL:

I do similar work on our land. Mostly mature hardwoods not small pines, etc.. I'm looking at tractors and was leaning of late toward the Branson 3620R geared tractor which is the larger frame same as the TYM 494 tractor but the smaller 3cyl engine yet still get the same FEL as the T494/T574 and...

I began looking harder at TYM after pricing a Branson 4815H that was new in stock yesterday. I actually lean toward the Branson 3620R which is a heavier tractor than the Branson 15 series but with a 3cyl/35hp engine not 4cyl like the 48hp TYM/Branson's but keeps the same FEL as the larger...

Exactly what did you "think" that 34 meant? :sleep:

Branson and TYM which I'm considering sell small frames with higher hp and same engines in larger frames. You must look at the entire pkg. on all brands. With modern engines it's often done to jack up hp. My Lincoln SUV has a gazillion hp in a V-6 while my Ford F-150 5.0 V-8 is much less but has...

Garson-your post scares me a bit for a 48hp HST Branson I'm considering. I don't care about PTO hp loss but need my tractor to pull in the woods when I skid logs or too maintain my steep private road to our home.

Not to simply to argue (as I fully agree with your size comments) but fact is that many modern utility & compact tractors have models that change hp via turbos, electronics or engine fuel system settings and yet have the same frames and other stuff so weight changes are often nil based on HP...

The Branson dealer I talked to today (he has a FT tech but also wrenches himself at times) about a 4815H on the lot says he's sold them for 12 plus years and the only one thats had a clogged DPF was sold to a commercial user who ran the FEL back and forth slow & low rpm's on a materials lot...

I ran onto a 4815H today on a dealer lot- he's only had it a couple of days and more said to be in Dec. as things stand now. prices will go up on new stock. His cash price is competitive with Kioti prices. I lean toward the 3620 for weight and FEL capacity and will call around to see prices and...

It's a business deal not a marriage when you buy a big ticket item like a tractor, car or whatever. They're certainly not shy about cashing my checks anywhere I go. I have recently had phone conversations with many out of state dealers for several brands of tractor. They are just as close to...

Dave, your mostly on target. I already know what pro loggers in my area use and it's mostly not what people like me use as they all have skidders and loaders and dozers and trucks. When we had a local pulp yard that fed the Mead paper mill in S OH there were quite a few what I'll call "bottom...

My inseam is 29"

Just for purpose of argument, google tells me the % of automatic trannies in 18 wheel tractors is nearing 85% and that European truckers were quicker to make that change. Yes, it's also true that many off road tractors go on road to work fields in spread out areas. In my area where logging is a...

In a fairly wide search area for my next tractor I've seen a wide price point range (thousands of $$$) between Kioti dealers. Also common is various costs for rear tire ballast fluids ranging from free (built into the price of course) and delivery costs vs. sales taxes vs. no sales taxes. The...

In snow that's very deep my R4's fill up same as they do in mud and all my 4wd tractor can do to pull much snow-if solid ice I have to break it up going downhill and work the snow off that direction too. My private road is steep enough to have me thinking Ag1's on my next tractor-but el nino...

OK, you can step up on the right side. How does that happen? Are you 7' tall or what?

This model (which I hope to buy new soon) doesn't come with a right side step which is often an issue operating in the woods in close quarters. I found an old thread where some one fabricated a step for there tractor in another model. Is there an area that allows a step, welded or bolted on? My...

I was just being conversational. We have had a Portuguese guy from MA near me for many years- his kids now run the place called Miguel's Pizza which caters to the rock climbing crowd from all over, plus locals. He has a CG out back where the climbers setup tents. I had two of his kids in school...

FEL #'s I read are BL150C= 2,525 lift & weighs 998lbs; BL200= 2,701 lift & weighs 1,075 lbs Not having talked to any dealers on Branson the number that bothers me most is the $$$ prices I see posted online are higher than a comparable Kioti- which I have called around on. ptsg- could you send...

In todays tractors we often see the value added for brand names from the past, as mentioned above with JD and NH, M-F, etc., even when many of their models are made by whomever in Asia. Bobcat has a very recognizable brand name of their own given most anyone who knows much about construction...

Yes indeed that is a nice looking tractor! I'll chime in here as several Branson model owners are in this thread who just might comment for me. Some background-I now own my 2nd Kioti tractor and like the brand OK but also getting Branson interested. Mostly I'm changing tractors to gain FEL...

I tried google the comparison to not much result, which is why I did the post. In a 2019 business news item online Bobcat says they are back in the tractor business with Daedong "for now" and will progress toward design and mfg of tractors in house, as it represents a 140,000 annual units piece...

How does (if it does) a CT 4045 differ from a DK4510?

On my DK35SE the only issue is in direct sun it's hard to read and otherwise my knee hits it when I'm playing log rodeo in the woods. I see the DK4510 has moved the switch under the steering column so I thought all was well now?

Y2K all over again huh? :)

The truth on warranties is that they get used not much or the manufacturers would all go under. Every brand of anything mechanical having an engine, etc., has a service dept.. The larger issue is that a tractor isn't so easy to tote into a dealer, even a cars or truck is a pita let alone a...

I have been told by an experienced dealer that the new hybrid tires load up mud/snow even more easily than an R4. I suppose they are designed to give more traction than a mower tire w/o damage to turf-not something I care about. I'm going with ag1 tires on my next tractor. Often my current...

OK, worry away then I guess?

I know what I like in a Kioti-the thread and stated such. This was supposed to be info on which Bobcats match my Kioti choices? I don't need basic information on how to choose a tractor.

That's about what I paid for a new seat for my DK45 back when it began to poke me. I bought a NOS Kubota seat for my Kioti on ebay. I've done many motorcycle seats-how did they get the vinyl to follow the curves of the depressions in your old seat? Was it heated during the glue job or what? In...

One seller of a larger compact Kubota on FB marketplace offered that his geared tractor did not have the objectional whine noise as an HST throws out. As a person with long time noise induced hearing loss I wear headphones at all times so that aspect matters not for me. Pulling power from a...

My question remains to compare models to models. The Kioti model I have the stronger interest in is the DK4510 but it's possible (if the deal is sweet enough) I might go for any one of the ten Kioti's with that same KL5520 loader or even an NX4510. I don't care what color it is but do care about...

I was Jack Benny's age in 82...

I began to try comparing and thought I'd found the Bobcat equivalent of the Kioti DK4510 but then specs differed some. Is there a definitive chart for comparison? Or does Bobcat pick and choose items like tire size and more when the spec their models?

I like the "looks' of a Mahindra model 3650 HST I found for sale asking $26,500 and 20 hours but fact is that I can buy a new Kioti NX for close to the same price. In todays marketplace (private sellers are often so far from real value it's crazy out there!) dealers who sell new and low are the...

I saw one listed for sale in TX today (a DK45 w/FEL as I recall) on national for sale listing website that had well over 3,600 hours. Looked kind of "Texas pale" like a fairly new Kubota...:)

Every electrical powered whatever it is has pages of lawyer talk that any sane person ignores. Electric fans and much, much more.

A "friendly, helpful, thoughtful" (think of other pleasant words to describe someone who values your business?) dealer might send me the parts when it was logical and so forth. Operating a machine it's typically going to be the owners responsibility to tighten a fastner or replace one that's...

Now that we all know what a deal ya got, I'm looking for somebody like you to pass along the savings? Not so easily done lately, I'm afraid. I entertain myself with lots of looking on FB, CL and not so easy to find as prices have risen while supply is often non-existent.

FWIW, r.e. that style of clutch: The guy who installed my replacement Kioti clutch used the pad style saying he'd found over the years that they are more robust than disc clutches. For reference he's a 74 yr old, lifetime tractor mechanic from a JD dealership background. I hope he's right...

Glass at retail is not glass at wholesale-this definitely includes vehicle windshields, plus it also comes in grades. Flat safety glass is a fact. If flat, buy the plastic as a rectangle then bandsaw it out.

If you own a DK4510, DK4710SE or DK4210SE: In looking for my next Kioti I have a few questions: I already know what's on the specs charts and Kioti's compare models website. I'm after a stronger FEL and these all have the same one and I gain that. My larger question is toward pulling power...

Plexiglass cut on a band saw? Call a commercial glass installer and ask whats available from their insulated glass supplier.

I'm a Kansas transplant to Kentucky and over time I changed my primary allegiance in sports to blue from purple...but I remain a KC Royals and KC Chiefs fan too. FWIW, MI and the rest of the Rust Belt are full of hillbillies. Whole towns full in fact. Welcome to the weird antics of vehicle...

Congrats on the tractor. The freebie hat is the wrong color of blue (for me).

Maybe: Kentucky Driveline and Clutch-they are just south of Louisville, KY

Proper angle makes sense to me... Too much angle and it will go too deep. Place concrete blocks on it?

I never make web statements as to what I bought a tractor, car or truck for as it's "out there" forever and kills bargaining down the road as a number a few years later tends to ignore the realities of a here and now situation. Covid makes a great e.g. of what I'm saying-my 2019 SUV will sell...

I pay sales tax on a KY tractor deal as I don't "farm" anymore, so a KY dealer starts out in the hole selling me anything. I lean toward Kioti as I like their tractors and had two so far. The T474 & T494 are confusing-or more accurately said the numbers are flat wrong-TYK website and on...

Great post above. Lately it's tough to be in the seat of much stuff as it's not there...

The mental issue for me is that I can buy a new Kioti with a very strong loader thats a step above my current loader and of course with full warranty, etc., For very little more than a 2017 Mahindra 3540 HST with 212 hours. Most later model 3540/3550's are more than that new Kioti even if used...

I see a dealer tractor new with "V W" as serial # start letters-pics show snow on dash- is it from both 2020 & 2021? It's an NX4510.

As they say, "Time will tell"...

That 2013 Kioti is not coming my way as the seller seems interested in other buyers and honestly they pissed me off by wasting my time. As if it wasn't enough that the owner used his son to list it under the wrong model to begin with. Then after nearly an hour total on the phone they have twice...

I've done far more research since that post you took the time to quote. I would appreciate comments on my last, most recent post?

I am exploring a 2017 Mahindra 3540 HST with 212 hours as we speak. I'll be talking to the owner further after he gets off this evening. Id appreciate your sharing your thoughts on this machine. I know the specs already, but can use your experience on this model as it sits. It's ~ 250 miles...

After much phone discussion of details the seller decided to go around me and says now they have a buyer 2 hrs away in AL. Not people I like dealing with overall...

Often the larger challenge to replace operating handle boots is to get the plastic knob off undamaged by tool marks- to allow upward slide of a boot. Kioti seems to use rubber that's got marginal UV resistance as even an inside stored tractor the boots crack pretty fast IMO.

He, the seller knows it doesn't have re-gen which was the point of my searching out the mfg date to begin with. Besides I missed that buy anyway.

Are you saying the SQ base is molded as one piece of rubber? I kind of doubt that being the case. Can you get a look/see at underneath the SQ part? That could be the easy answer. One wild guess is your wrong on the above comment, the other is I'm seeing plastic tabs on the SQ base part- will it...

To clarify I said it was an N, not M...

I listed that number in the other thread which Michigan Iron had participated in. It's : NT6400002

See my post a few minutes ago toward the same model/same FEL, with serial number posted. What is your serial number?

I'm looking at a Kioti tractor for sale listed as a 2014 DK40SE by the 2nd owner, serial number is NT6400002, it does not have Tier 4 re-gen so it made me ask when it was built to be called that "year model" and not have the newer emissions stuff? The post above by Michigan Iron is confusing...

As a guy who repaired vehicles I'm much aware of the vagaries of year models. The parking lots now full of new, "chipless" vehicles in the USA are a case in point huh? No doubt the mfg.'s will pull them out based on sales needs and what they have to make them go zoom. Tier 4 enters into my...

In looking for a tractor with increased loader capacity I ran across a listing for a 2014 Kioti DK40SE, which had been erroneously listed as a DK45SE, so I learned after I inquired and then sent a new picture with the hood showing DK40SE. It's low hours and been owned by it's 2nd owner since ~...

I'm now looking @ Mahindra 3540 as one choice that gets me more FEL and a couple of Kioti's too. There are no "local anything" here, after all it's not Texas...:LOL:

Hello neighbor- I'm next door to Natural Bridge SP. BTW, I need a bunch of those EWP's.

Good information except the part where you say "I'm at a loss why", etc. that I shouldn't need more lift capacity i a different machine? I skid logs that I cannot lift now.