My thoughts. LOOK OVER THE SAW. Is it beat up, scratched, welded, missing parts? Is the bottom of the saw missing paint and worn? These are signs of a used up pro saw. If is babied, and runs buy it. It is a boat anchor if you wanna pack it into the brush, but it does the job other saws won't. It is powerful and has a lot of torque and will pull a 42 inch full skip chain all day long.