50hr service on BX2200??

dawall · Oct 20, 2004

Just bought a used BX 2200 and the owner could not find the operators manual. The tractor has 60 hrs on it and is due for the 50 hr svc. I do have a call in to the dealer (who has not returned my call yet) to see if they can get a manual.
So what is needed on the 50hr service aside from oil change? He has done no svc at all on it, to date.What type of grease is needed for the loader, what grade of oil for the engine,etc. etc.

Dan
BX2200
LA 2111 Loader
gearmore box scrapper
Land pride PD 10 post hole digger

sandyc · Oct 20, 2004

You'll need to change the hydro fluid, hydro filter, clean the hydro screen, engine oil filter, as well as fuel filters. Clean the air cleaner as well.

The manual will give you the specs and capacities but it has been my experience that the volume conversions from metric to US are a bit off. Use the dipstick to give you the final indications of the unit being FULL.

Tractorsmart can provide you with the filters thru their web sit. They also will allow you to download a pdf parts manual for no $$.

Good luck!

sandyc · Oct 20, 2004

Just noticed you are in Northern CA....if you get below freezing you might want to investigate the use of super UDT hydro fluid...... there are many threads and comments regarding the use of Kubota branded fluids versus Amsoil or other reputable companies. Got to do and use what you are comfortable doing!

SeymourBota · Oct 20, 2004

Engine oil & filter 2.6 qts of SAE 10W30 or 10W-40 API CC or CD
Transmission oil & filter 2.7 gallons Kubota Super UDT
Transmission strainer not required to be cleaned but while the transmission is drained, it would be a good idea.

If you plan to DIY, I will post filter numbers and images from the owner's manual for you.

SCB · Oct 20, 2004

My bx23 may be different than the bx2200, but I am not required to change the fuel filter at the 50 hour service. I would recommend changing the front end oil. You can use super udt or 80/90 wt. gear oil in the front end only. Grease the hydro pedal at 50 hours also. Check the aircleaner and replace if you have an accumulation of dust.

SeymourBota · Oct 20, 2004

I don't think your BX23 is different. The fuel filter is every 500 hours. I wouldn't do it at 50. I have 300 on mine and haven't done it.

TobyH · Oct 20, 2004

Look at the fuel filters - yes, there's two - one under the tractor and one in the engine compartment. They may be gunky. They're cheap and if you don't know how your machine was treated before you got it, it's good insurance. I bought my bx2200 3 yrs old, 186hrs. The first time I reved it up to mow, it started stalling. Turned out the fuel filters had water in them that started growing stuff. God only knows how green stuff can grow in that environment. Replaced both filters and been running fine ever since. Enjoy your new ride! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

RonR · Oct 20, 2004

My book says 300 hrs for the front axle fluid change. Of course, if you don't know the history or if you suspect the front end has been underwater, changing it would be good.

I just ordered the stuff for my 50 hrs service from Tractorsmart today: 3.5 gal Super UDT, 2 hydro filters, 2 engine filters (one spare each), and 2 fuel filters (for spares). With shipping, it was $125.

Hope it helps.

ron

SCB · Oct 20, 2004

Toby, very good point about the fuel filter. The guy could have been running old fuel. RonR, The only reason I changed my front end oil early was the same reason that I changed the tranny fluid. The dealer recommended it to remove any manufacturing debris and it was inexpensive. But, to each his own.

Spudgunner · Oct 20, 2004

At the 50hr service I would also make sure that the fuel sender has the factory retrofit kit designed to eliminate the fuel leakage that can occur when the tank is greater than 1/2 full and the tractor is on a grade. The Kubota p/n for this "Fuel Stay Kit" is K2561-96140 and is applicable to the following tractors/sernumbs (according to the info supplied with the kit):
BX1800D/50001 to 55350, 5A001 to 5A681
BX2200D/50001 to 67009, 5A001 to 5E062
BX2200E/10001 to 10595

Junkman · Oct 20, 2004

I find this interesting that it doesn't make mention of the BX22 which has had the same problem. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Spudgunner · Oct 20, 2004

May be the same problem, but perhaps a different retrofit part numb (?) for the BX22. It would be pretty odd, though, if they let the BX22 outta the factory with this same issue.

BTW, this problem has got to be one of the strangest things I've ever seen. After working with Japanese engineering companies for a number of years, I cannot quite fathom how they missed something like this. Pobody is nerfect, I guess. When I discovered this problem on my previous BX2200, I'm sure the neighbors could hear my lower jaw hitting the ground.

dawall · Oct 21, 2004

Thanks for the replys, I know the history of the tractor because I put about 12 of the 60 hours on it. Previous owner is a friend who is moving out of state to a bigger piece of property...so he needs a bigger tractor like an L series. He owned it for only about a year and a half. In that time he mainly used it for box scrapping and drilling a few post holes for planting trees, Oh yeah and I borrowed it from him twice /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif One thing that concerned me though was that it spent the year and a half outside under no protection at all. I think I will change out the fuel filters
Now, he did find most of the paper work but the operators manual that he came up with is for an L Series tractor (which he had previously owned) that he ironicaly traded in for this Bx. So if anyone wants to trade a L series manual for a bx2200's.... It's for the L3010,L3410,L3710,L4310,L4610
I think I'll just have the dealer do the 50hr service and check the tractor over as well. Maybe by the next service I"ll have a manual or a facimille.
Thanks for the info on the factory upgrade kit. I'll ask the dealer about it.

Dan

BRIGUY · Oct 21, 2004

dawall

Hearing that the your BX has been out side for 1.5 years, I'm glad that you have decided to have a dealer go over it. They might find things that you wouldn't think to look for.

Get a manual if you can, if not buy the shop manual it helps a lot.

I did my own 50 hr service, my dealer provided great advice and I followed what they do at 50 hours.

Changed: air, oil, hydro, and both fuel filters, hydro fluid (super UDT), front axel fluid (super UDT), and engine oil (used mobil 1 5w40)

Greased: hydro pedal, back hoe, and FEL (done every 10 hours as per manual)

Cleaned: hydro screen, and radiator.

checked: wheel torque (this was third time), coolant level and concentration, tire pressure, all hydraulic lines, fuel lines, all fasteners on tractor, hydro fan, sprayed battery terminals.

I should have sprayed some superlube or triflow on the FEl linkage and will from now on.

gsxr1100 · Oct 21, 2004

My BX22 had the "new and improved fuel sending unit w/seal"and still leaked. Nice new design Kubota!

dawall · Oct 21, 2004

Talked to the dealer this morning. Says he can order the manual from the printer. I asked him how much for 50 hour service and he said $300-350... /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif seems a bit on the high side to me. He said it would be about $150 in parts if I wanted to do it myself. I looked at tractorsmart and it looks like it may be more like $60-70 from them.

Dan

gsxr1100 · Oct 21, 2004

I did mine for about $120 for:

2-fuel filters
5-gallon synthetic hyd fluid
4-qts of synthetic 80w-90 gear fluid
1-gallon of 15w40 synthetic engine oil
1-kubota oil filter
1-gallon Fleetrite EG coolant (w/ distilled water)

*CLP all fitting, hyd screen etc.

Dealer pricing is all over the place!

SeymourBota · Oct 21, 2004

If you perform the functions specified in the manual + the fuel filters, $75 would be about right.
If you get into extras, like gear lube, etc. (which is not a bad idea) you would be closer to $125