5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing.

   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #32  
But, Reg...why did you dig up a 2-yr old thread to comment on?:confused:

Not sure that I "dug it up" in February, it may have just come up in a search for something else.

That it went 2 years without updates doesn't matter THAT MUCH, it seems to still have interest for SOME folk - such as those who have gotten away with being overloaded and like to scoff at others who actually STOP at red lights (-:
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ANYWAY, last Friday I got some more "education" on lunette rings and pintle hooks.
Until then everything I had used had fitted everything else.

They AIN'T all the same, i.e. Ya can't fit a big fat ring into the throat of a skinny little pintle hook.
It makes a lot of sense, though there seems to be nothing to prevent someone from putting a 20 ton hook on a mini SUV just because it has a 2 inch square receiver and then trying to tow whatever they want to (-:
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #33  
As opposed to making a new thread about something there has already been discussion on? Sometimes I find interesting tidbits of info when a thread resurfaces.

I didn't read this thread two years ago, but now I see reference here to why there is both Gooseneck and 5th Wheel; I had often wondered why.

But, Reg...why did you dig up a 2-yr old thread to comment on?:confused:
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #34  
This was interesting to a guy who has neither. But how about the term "bumper pull". Like most pickups, my F-250 receiver is attached to the frame, not to the bumper.....isn't it?.....so that would make it a "frame pull". ...right?
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #35  
This was interesting to a guy who has neither. But how about the term "bumper pull". Like most pickups, my F-250 receiver is attached to the frame, not to the bumper.....isn't it?.....so that would make it a "frame pull". ...right?

As I said earlier, there are historical reasons for a lot of the nomenclature.
There really WAS a time when bumpers were bumpers and had the strength to take trailers, at least a small utility trailer or lightweight camper - Hmm, the Ford "Step and Tow" bumper wasn't THAT long ago.
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #36  
This was interesting to a guy who has neither. But how about the term "bumper pull". Like most pickups, my F-250 receiver is attached to the frame, not to the bumper.....isn't it?.....so that would make it a "frame pull". ...right?

Great minds think alike. So do yours and mine. ;)

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/173449-what-else-do-you-call.html

I think the consensus from that thread was that a lot of people now call them tag-a-long trailers.
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #37  
Great minds think alike. So do yours and mine. ;)

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/trailers-transportation/173449-what-else-do-you-call.html

I think the consensus from that thread was that a lot of people now call them tag-a-long trailers.

A couple of folk in that thread, but there was mixing of "tag along" and "tag-a-long".
I am fairly sure that "Tag-A-Long" is a trade name.

The majority of the horsey folk I know still use "bumper pull" to distinguish a trailer that is "all behind" its tow vehicle from one that "hangs over and is partly carried by" and in all fairness most of them have little/no interest in the mechanical details of how the trailer attaches to the tow vehicle.
They just know that it does and hope that it stays attached.

Come to think of it, "2 horse" is the usual term for most trailers that are "all behind" their tow vehicles.
They seem to think in terms of capacity more than attachment mechanism (which is reasonable).
SOMEtimes they will use terms like "a 3 horse bumper pull" to indicate that they can pull 3 horses with a SUV and/or truck without an in bed hitch.
 
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   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #38  
Around here a "Tag Trailer" or "Tag-Along Trailer" is an equipment trailer that connects with a pintle hitch and is generally used to haul equipment (backhoe, dozer, etc) behind a dump truck

Aaron Z
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #39  
Around here a "Tag Trailer" or "Tag-Along Trailer" is an equipment trailer that connects with a pintle hitch and is generally used to haul equipment (backhoe, dozer, etc) behind a dump truck

Aaron Z

I think "bumper pull" is going to get thrown into the bucket with "reverse polarity". It will be a naming convention that's not so intuitive to contemporary wisdom, but has its roots in the origin of the practice.

I know around here if I call a trailer a bumper pull everyone knows what I'm talking about. Everyone also knows that there's only one guy in the county that still has a ball on his bumper, and his trailers always look rediculous nose-high as he drives down the road.
 
   / 5th Wheel and Gooseneck NOT the same thing. #40  
This reminds me of the 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton monikers. It has been a long time since a 15 series truck has been "1/2 ton". Toyota and Nissan don't even call their trucks but that number series.

I think "bumper pull" is going to get thrown into the bucket with "reverse polarity". It will be a naming convention that's not so intuitive to contemporary wisdom, but has its roots in the origin of the practice
 

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