Add this to the list of reasons I’m going to sell my Kioti

[paulsharvey]

On impliments being able to hit a machine; many track hoe buckets can reach a track or push blade; a motor grader, if used wrong enough, can hit its own tires, ect. That's not a problem, it's operator error. It socks when it happens; but tractors and heavy equipment aren't designed to be idiot proof (not implying the OP is an idiot, I'm using that as a term of speak, I know things can get misread). On the dealer, their job is to sell you stuff you want to buy, and if your relying on a dealer to sell the most appropriate impliment for a job... you are in for a rough time. If Ford sells you an F350 with goose neck, but not a cut down tailgate, it's not their fault When you tear up a bumper turning to sharp, or driving off after unhooking, with tail gate up.

 

[lilranch2001]

There in lies the problem…..

Too many people want everything that they purchased to be smarter than they are, and in most cases it isn’t

 

[MoKelly]

On a positive note, we needed to buy a new golf cart for my wife to play golf at our club.

The salesman was helpful and my wife chose a pretty red cart. A red cart costs more than white.

We are doing the paperwork and the salesman says “hey, are you sure your club allows red carts? Some only allow white or beige”.

Never even gave that a thought. So, we call the club and ask. Sure enough - only white, beige or gray.

So, we get the white. Paid less.

Was very happy the salesman was smarter than me and cared.

 

[lilranch2001]

On a positive note, we needed to buy a new golf cart for my wife to play golf at our club.

The salesman was helpful and my wife chose a pretty red cart. A red cart costs more than white.

We are doing the paperwork and the salesman says “hey, are you sure your club allows red carts? Some only allow white or beige”.

Never even gave that a thought. So, we call the club and ask. Sure enough - only white, beige or gray.

So, we get the white. Paid less.

Was very happy the salesman was smarter than me and cared.

It sounds like your club is bigoted against different colors!

 

[Grumpycat]

There in lies the problem…..

Too many people want everything that they purchased to be smarter than they are, and in most cases it isn’t

Or maybe the problem is that most things they purchase are smarter than they are?

 

[tacticalturnip]

Or maybe the problem is that most things they purchase are smarter than they are?

That's why I purchased a tractor that's fat and dumb.

 

[Coyote_CS2220]

That's why I purchased a tractor that's fat and dumb.

....hmmmm ......I would be satisfied with one that does not have issues I need a dealer to resolve, requires high maintenance and is ready to go when I am.

I am willing/able to work out the fine tuning/useage parts.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Fortunately I've not experienced any of this negativity, and have an excellent dealer. Regarding my tractor, it's got minimal electrical, and it's a large frame 25 horsepower tractor. Therefore, dumb and fat.

 

[fishdoggy]

Reading this makes me glad I have a 1955 and 1960 IH and will do what I have to to make them work, also a 1946 IH dozer.

 

[Coyote_CS2220]

Reading this makes me glad I have a 1955 and 1960 IH and will do what I have to to make them work, also a 1946 IH dozer.

Like my old Zetor 4340........simplicity has been under-rated in the engineering of new tractors (and other stuff too).

There could be a lot of value and sustainability in creating newer/updated tractors based on the idea of simplicity, longevity and easy maintenance.

Are all the bells and whistles really required?

I will be certain to avoid any tractor that has a heated steering wheel!