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BoneheadNW

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OK, I've tried searching for the answer to this question to avoid being embarassed by my poor BH technique but I found none so here goes:

Many times when I need to use my BH, I am required to park my tractor somewhat farther from where I will be digging than what would be optimum. Digging with the BH under these conditions will tend to drag the tractor backwards, even when I am only applying light downward pressure on the bucket. I understand the physics involved but don't know how to avoid dragging my tractor toward the hole.

As an example, I am now removing one of the many stumps on my property. This particular stump is next to my driveway near my house. To the north of the stump, the hillside drops away to the forest, preventing me from positoning the tractor there. The west side of the stump is next to a rock wall which limits space to position the tractor. Digging on the north side of the stump with the tractor on the south side requires a long reach with the BH and nearly every pass with the bucket will drag the tractor across the gravel driveway. With regard to stabilizer and FEL positioning, both rear tires are in light contact with the ground and the FEL bucket teeth are lowered to the ground with front tires also in contact with ground.

I know this has been a long-winded question, but any advice on how to not drag the tractor during BH work (resulting in destruction of the points of contact between tractor and ground) would be appreciated.

Bonehead
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #2  
Bonehead; Got a teethbar? If you do, just dump your bucket so you can wedge the teeth into the ground. Ofcourse if you're in an area that you don't want to tear up, that won't work! /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #3  
Put your stabilizers down hard, lifting the tires off the ground. You want the maximum weight on a fixed point, not on a rolling point (the tires) Some stabilzers also have holes in them that you can install spikes into (for soft ground) Case has them for their smaller hoes (skidloader attached).
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #4  
I dont know if it will help any, as I have only used a back hoe a few times, but with an very knowledgable operator by my side. I had the same problem you are having, dragging the tractor back and all, until he told me what I was doing wrong. Remember, when you dig, the curling action of the bucket is how you dig down, not by retracting the boom. When he told me this it was 100% easier and better. Curl the bucket to dig down.
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #5  
Set the stabilizers to remove weight from the rear wheels. Rear wheels should remain touching the ground as this provides for the widest stabilizer stance and lowest center of gravity.

Raising the wheels off the ground will not only reduce stability and digging depth, but impair performance and impose unnecessary stress on the backhoe itself.

Actuating the bucket is the key to digging. Operating the crowd and bucket controls simultaneously will insure a full bucket and prevent wasted motion and time.
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #6  
Did you set a strong brake? I have grouser pads on my stabilizer pads that really grab well on pavement.
 
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Brake is set. Toothbar is placed down into surface. Stabilizers placed such that rear wheels are still on the ground. I believe the biggest problem is limited space around the stump for tractor placement. After 3 hours working mostly with pickaxe, shovel, axe, and chainsaw, I discovered a large root hidden beneath a layer of fist sized rocks. As I sit here drinking a cold one, I am planning my attack for tomorrow.

Bonehead
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #8  
Just think how much better you will feel tomorrow once you have popped that stump out of it's home.
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #9  
Bonehead; Well DUH!! Done the same thing with a 580 Case. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Backhoe Techniques Question #10  
You might fill the front bucket too. Dunno about the smaller machines but with Brutus I can fill the front bucket at times and that will add a significant amount of weight and help hold it down. (I dont have a tooth bar to dig in)

As always, your dirt (milage) may vary. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

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