Building a pond questions

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I would like to build an animal friendly pond. The size could be from 1/2 to 1 acre. I've looked for some tips on past posts but could not find any. If you have any suggestions on where to look or your own experiences would be appreciated.
Thanks,
-Terry
 
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Terry,
Did you do a search for pond over at countrybynet?
Although the thread is about pond dredging and excavating, there's pertinent info about ponds in general.
Brian
 
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Brian,
No I did not but I will. Good tip!
Thanks,
Terry
 
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Terry--

Don't worry--the only way to make a pond non-animal-friendly is to put barbed wire around it.

Pondboss is an all-but-definitive reference, and everybody there will tell you to find out who the best local pondbuilder is and get a consult. I started with the County Extension Service, by the way, which came in and did a soil test and discussed our plans with us.

The fact that you have this on the build-it-yourself forum is worrisome, especially if you're thinking about doing it with a CUT. Mighty unlikely, unless all you're going to do is scoop out a bowl (and even then)--thus maybe the reason for the absence of threads. Pond building usually requires moving LOTS of dirt, digging a keyway for a dam, compacting clay, etc.--think highway-construction equipment; our 3/4-ac. pond was built with a trackhoe, Komatsu, and sheepsfoot compactor (with a CUT to do the seeding). If you can rent and operate a medium-to-large dozer, then you have a chance; however, there will be pressure to get it done, and you might end up sitting in a fililng-up mudhole trying to put a track back on.

The good news is, there's excellent bang for the buck in getting the work done professionally, the land can be sculpted if necessary, it doesn't take long at all, and there is excellent property-value improvement.

Good luck!
 
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Terry,

Up reading this too early this morning and missed the aforementioned part about animals. Can you elaborate on what types of animals you're expecting? Not exactly sure where you are in NY, but for different reasons, I can think of at least 3 animals in your area you don't want.
Muskrats - create tunnels into banks of pond.
Geese - a huge mess and can become territorial.
Herons - will eat frogs and small fish in mass amounts.

Keep an eye open for ideas on controlling these pests.

Brian
 
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Rick,

Thank you for some excellent ( and disappointing) food for thought. Yes, I was planning to do the work myself but after reading your reply I may re-think that.
The pictures if what I assume is your pond on your web sight are beautiful. It's just what I would like to build.
Do you think I have a chance doing it myself if I downsized the project? I enjoy doing all my own work. I get deep satisfaction when I get kudos for the garage, wood/implement shed, landscaping, road and utilities I all did with only the help of my trusty tractor and some friends. I ended up not building my camp because I ran out of money and doublewides are built much better now.
However, I don't want to end up with a muddy hole in the ground either.
-Terry
 
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As Rmorgan pointed out, you won't get it done with a CUT. I started that way, but ended up buying a Cat 955 dozer, a JD 650 excavator and a tandem axle dump truck. Add two years of evenings and weekends to that and now I have a nice 1 1/4 acre pond with a little island in the middle. It's average depth is 7 1/2 feet, with one area at 18' deep. I even sold the equipment for a profit when I finished.

Also as Rmorgan mentioned, get your soil tested for both it's ability to hold water, your local run off available to fill the lake (they advise 7 acres of run off area for each acre of lake as a minimum) as well as whether you will hit any base of rock at your desired depth. In general, rock bottom = empty lake.

Also a good transit sure wouldn't hurt. I literally have a couple thousand hours seat time doing this job. However, it wasn't all that hard and all worked out perfectly for me. I even built my dock before the water began to fill it up and placed a "water line" mark as to where I expected the water level. Bingo! Within 1 inch, and my spill way is about 300 feet from where my dock is.

My estimates were between $22,000 and $35,000 to have my lake dug for me. I moved 26,000 cubic yards of dirt. I suppose it depends upon your skill at running various equipment and how you value your time. As I said, I actually made money on the equipment when it was all said and done, but I did spend thousands of hours of my time doing it. Good luck!
 
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Brent,

Do you have any pictures of your pond? I'd love to see it.

Brien,

I was thinking of mostly deer which I have many that visit now. You are right however, I may invite the wrong animals.
-Terry
 
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Sorry guys,
This is the wrong forum. I should have posted this question in the "Projects" Forum. That would have been more appropriate.
My apologies.
-Terry
 

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