Financing a new barn?

   / Financing a new barn? #51  
Not a mistype......I could buy a nice second house for what we are paying. My wife works in the school system so we only have to pay for 10 months of care, but its going to be $26,000 after taxes for 10 months of daycare. If she didn't have a pension and professional status she would be better off staying home, but it would kill her career and retirement if she left to raise the kids full time. So instead we devote pretty much her entire pay check to daycare for the 7 years that the kids are in it.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #53  
Not a mistype......I could buy a nice second house for what we are paying. My wife works in the school system so we only have to pay for 10 months of care, but its going to be $26,000 after taxes for 10 months of daycare. If she didn't have a pension and professional status she would be better off staying home, but it would kill her career and retirement if she left to raise the kids full time. So instead we devote pretty much her entire pay check to daycare for the 7 years that the kids are in it.
With those expenses, glad I don't live in the ne. I will stay in the Midwest were things are sti'll reasonably affordable.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #54  
Back in 1992 daycare was $110 per week for one kid. By 1997, it was $219.10 per week. I'll never forget that number... $219.10. Today, you're luck to find it for $150 per week. So, $150 per week is $7800 per year. Times that by 3 kids... is $23,400 per year.

We were lucky in that my wife had cafeteria style benefits. I covered the kids with insurance and she got to cover herself and use the rest towards daycare, so one of the kids was payed for almost completely by her insurance benefits.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #55  
With those expenses, glad I don't live in the ne. I will stay in the Midwest were things are sti'll reasonably affordable.

Have you priced full-time daycare in your area lately? I'd be curious to see how it compares.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #56  
Back in 1992 daycare was $110 per week for one kid. By 1997, it was $219.10 per week. I'll never forget that number... $219.10. Today, you're luck to find it for $150 per week. So, $150 per week is $7800 per year. Times that by 3 kids... is $23,400 per year.

We were lucky in that my wife had cafeteria style benefits. I covered the kids with insurance and she got to cover herself and use the rest towards daycare, so one of the kids was payed for almost completely by her insurance benefits.

$200/wk per child is not a bad rate in South Bend. So a bit over $600/wk for 3 kids.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #57  
Ouch! I wish my income would have increased the same % as daycare costs. :laughing:

When we thought about it, we figured it this way...

Drop the kid off at 7:30am and pick her up at 5:30.
10 hours per day at 5 days per week is 50 hours.
$110 per week divided by 50 hours = $2.20 per hour.

$2.20 per hour seems cheap for childcare when you think about it.

So now its $200 per week, for 50 hours and that's $4.00 per hour. Still seems cheap. But if you're a young couple starting out, and you have two or three kids... yeowch! That's expensive.

So, you hope that you can maintain your job and benefits and pay raises while your kid(s) is(are) in daycare until they can enter pre-school.

We were lucky that our kids went to all-day pre-school, and kindergarten, with a latchkey program after school.

When we add it all up, for us, it was this:

$5500 per year daycare for 5 years = $27,500
$3500 per year P-8 for 10 years = $35,000
Summer care P-6 $100 per week for 11 weeks = $1100
High school averaged $6000 for 4 years = $24,000.

So righ there we have about $88,000 per kid, so about $178,000 to get them through high school.

Oh, you have to feed and clothe them, too. And sports gear.... yikes! :laughing:
 
   / Financing a new barn? #58  
Sorry OP, didn't mean to derail your thread. I just remember doing the same exact research a few years ago. Morton's does offer financing if you have them come in and build it. I was quoted about 60k up this way for a 40x60 insulated, no floors, no utilities.

As for the off topic stuff, it is crazy how expensive things are for a family starting out. My wife and I do fairly well financially but I still struggle to put away as much as possible for the future. Once that is all done there isn't much left over for fun stuff!!
 
   / Financing a new barn? #59  
Sorry OP, didn't mean to derail your thread. I just remember doing the same exact research a few years ago. Morton's does offer financing if you have them come in and build it. I was quoted about 60k up this way for a 40x60 insulated, no floors, no utilities.

As for the off topic stuff, it is crazy how expensive things are for a family starting out. My wife and I do fairly well financially but I still struggle to put away as much as possible for the future. Once that is all done there isn't much left over for fun stuff!!

We put up a 36x72, no floors or utilities for $25K or so. 10 foot to the trusses. Not sure that Morton or FBI or the "big boys" are worth the extra cost. They would have been $50K or more.

We saved quite a bit of money by hiring out the electrical and plumbing on our own rather than having the building contractor do it.
 
   / Financing a new barn? #60  
Sorry OP, didn't mean to derail your thread. I just remember doing the same exact research a few years ago. Morton's does offer financing if you have them come in and build it. I was quoted about 60k up this way for a 40x60 insulated, no floors, no utilities.

As for the off topic stuff, it is crazy how expensive things are for a family starting out. My wife and I do fairly well financially but I still struggle to put away as much as possible for the future. Once that is all done there isn't much left over for fun stuff!!

It is shocking how barn prices have changed.
I had Morton erect a 36 x 48 building (no insulation) 33 years ago.
Building is on the Cape, not so far from Sutton, Ma.
The Morton cost then was just under $10,000 ($5.80/sq.ft.)
Your Morton price now.... $60,000 ($25/sq.ft.)
....and I thought inflation was under control.
That said: Morton was a SUPERB company to deal with, and my Morton steel building (1/2 mile from salt water) is still in excellent condition.
 

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