Oil & Fuel GC2400 - Water in front axle

   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #1  

jsvoll

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Massey GC2400
Greetings from Alberta. About a month or so ago, I purchased a 2010 (I think) - GC2400 with FEL, MMM and 50" tiller with only 44 hrs on it. "Near perfect" condition. :)
With the assistance of the exceptional wisdom from these forum threads, I have been learning a lot about owning, operating and servicing my new investment.
Today I was in the final leg of changing out all of the fluids in the tractor and was a bit shocked to see about a cup and a half of clean water to leave the drain plug before any signs of oil came out of the front axle on the left side. :eek:
I pulled the filler cap off and noticed that the threads had a thin layer of wet rust. I used a shop light to peek down inside and from the top I do not see anything that looks like rust on the interior housing or pitting on the visible bevel gear.
Other than perhaps changing the oil again after a few hours use to purge out any water residue, is there anything else I can check, or add to the oil going back in to (for the lack of better words) "clean up" in there a bit? That is of course if there is anything going on in there for rust cake or buildup that I can't see? I would guess that with the oil sitting over the water that oxygen wouldn't be able to reach the water and cause rusting or caking in the lower extremities, at least while it has been sitting. I would also imagine that some water would be still emulsified in the oil regardless of the separation I observed, so I am fairly concerned about hidden trouble. I would appreciate your thoughts.


Sure glad its been sitting in my heated garage...
The rest of the fluids were good. No other water. Very little metal on the hydraulic suction screen, and no metal at all was picked up by the magnet trick I learned from here.

Thanks in advance!

James
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #2  
Not sure how it got in there. But, since you are keeping it indoors, I would change it again in a few hours, (after use), and then watch it.

I doubt it could have done any harm, that fast.
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle
  • Thread Starter
#3  
I'm a little puzzled by how it got there too. My only concern now is residual moisture and possibly rust flakes... Perhaps there's an oil additive out there. I'll do some more info searching. Definitely agree on the oil change again in the next few hours use.

Thanks
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #4  
I'm a little puzzled by how it got there too. My only concern now is residual moisture and possibly rust flakes... Perhaps there's an oil additive out there. I'll do some more info searching. Definitely agree on the oil change again in the next few hours use.

Thanks

It's not air tight, there is going to be some moisture in there, no matter what.
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #5  
Suppose somebody took it fishin'? (Stuck the front into a pond?)

It does sound odd having that much water, but I also agree with others-- probably no serious damage, and I bet if you change it after a few hours' use, it'll look fine. Best thing is, it doesn't sound as though it was worked with the water in there. irvingj
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle
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#6  
That's exactly what crossed my mind as I watched the water run out full bore for about 7 seconds (vent plugs out). I'm glad I caught it now.
I'll feel better already knowing that the general feedback here indicates there shouldn't be any serious damage.

Thanks fellas.
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #7  
Tractor may have been in a flood?
 
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#8  
Yes, that is certainly a possibility...
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #9  
Im experiencing some grinding in my front axle. I drained the front axle and then removed the front drive shaft and removed the pinion gear. All teeth were worn down. I’m sure there metal shavings in the axle. Any recommendations on how to clean the shavings. Thanks
 
   / GC2400 - Water in front axle #10  
First thing to do would be to pull drain plugs and strain gear oil through something that will capture any metal filings to see if there is anything large enough to cause a danger to other gears and bearings.... Maybe strain through paper coffee filter or maybe paint strainer...

It could be as simple as drain oil and replacing worn gears and replace with fresh oil or complete front axle teardown and inspection and replace anything worn....
 

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