Gear or Hydrostatic Transmissions for Compact Utility Tractors?
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holeycow
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Exactly opposite to my experiences.
And to the M8540 fellow on here - TripleR
The several wet clutches I have used have had a shorter engagement window than a typical dry clutch. The "feel" also tends to change more depending on how hot the fluid is. Not as much with the dry clutch, imo.
Anyway...
And to the M8540 fellow on here - TripleR
The several wet clutches I have used have had a shorter engagement window than a typical dry clutch. The "feel" also tends to change more depending on how hot the fluid is. Not as much with the dry clutch, imo.
Anyway...
GManBart
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Yeah, that's a great concept until you hit a soft spot, unseen hole, or a rock hits the wheel rim just right and the tire goes instantly soft...tractor on it's side despite all the ballast, etc. Obviously, that can still happen if the loader is low, but it's far less likely than when the loader is up high.
For someone who's broken a bunch of stuff on his tractor, I would have guessed you'd plan for the worst :confused3:
The creeping thread is still there if nobody else has pointed that out (I haven't read all 11 pages because there's nothing new in it).
tcreeley
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My pickup is auto- only way I could get a heavy enough transmission for towing on my silverado. The stiff springs make it feel almost like a standard! My tractor is a gear 9x3. I like standards over automatics of any kind. I like the direct response to the gas and clutch. On snow- I really like that. I used to have a 5 spd on the floor chevy and that was fun to drive - and good for towing. Manual gear or auto/hydro- all a matter of preference.
My son's Mazda Mx-5 is a manual 6 speed. You get to 55mph doing 6 clutch shifts. Fun to drive- keeps you alert and gives you something to do so you are not bored! This is the shift pattern:
My son's Mazda Mx-5 is a manual 6 speed. You get to 55mph doing 6 clutch shifts. Fun to drive- keeps you alert and gives you something to do so you are not bored! This is the shift pattern:
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MinnesotaEric
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On level ground must have a different meaning for you than it does for me. I'm traveling down a road. A road.
As I stated, "If I'm on a hill, I make all reasonable efforts to lower my machine's center of gravity to increase stability and traction for any given load. On level ground the higher center of gravity for the benefit of increased visibility isn't a problem."
If you cannot accept that statement, you'll just have to accept that in my area roads and well manicured yards are flat and level.
See how I've got my loader down in the photo? It's because I'm not traveling over level (i.e. smooth) ground.
melroebobcat
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HST ALL THE WAY, GEAR IS SUCH A PAIN THE *** WHEN TRYING TO DO ANYTHING
GManBart
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You don't think you can be on a perfectly flat piece of land and hit an unseen soft spot, or have something puncture the tire sidewall or something similar??? With the loader up high, it doesn't take much to put the tractor on it's side....even on level ground.
Arguing over what is, and what isn't "level ground" is simply playing with words to try and defend a silly position.
Like I said, with all the damage you've managed to do to your tractor, it would seem you'd know "stuff happens" even when things seem pretty safe.
Sawyer Rob
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That demo means nothing to me... I don't test my tractors driving up and down a road in high gear...
My tractors get pto work, the REAL test for hydro whine is, put something on the pto like a tiller, rev the engine up to pto speed and run the tractor at 1.5 mph, 2.0 mph and about 3.0 mph. Those are the most common speeds I do pto work, from rotavating, rotary cutting ect...
Every hydro I get in, that I simulate doing that, the hydro whine drives me nuts! I can't imagine putting up with that for hours on end!!
When I run my loader, I have the tractor at fast idle, and use a gear that moves me from the pile to the spreader fairly fast. Gear drive allows me to use fast idle and still have enough power to load the bucket at the pile.
NO hydro whine, NO loud roaring engine noise, and the diesel sips fuel all day long at the fast idle rpm...
I do like a hydro for mowing grass though... The blades make enough noise, it drowns out all other noises, so I wear ear plugs, with muffs over them.
BTW, I don't and won't drive my tractors with the loader up in the air either!!
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MinnesotaEric
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PTO work? Okay. There isn't any HST wine while running the PTO. All recorded from inside the cab.
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MinnesotaEric
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There isn't any HST wine outside of the cab either when using the PTO.
The only time I ever hear the HST is in high gear.
The only time I ever hear the HST is in high gear.