Buying Advice Grand L 5460 review

   / Grand L 5460 review #1  

buck12

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I have wanted to provide a review of my Kubota 5460 HSTC in hopes that it will prove helpful for others as they shop tractors. I bought the tractor in August 2019. I bought a Land Pride 1872 rotary cutter with the tractor. I had the tractor equipped with radio, bucket, third function valve, rear work lights, and one rear remote with float detent (I should have went with two remotes). I already had a PHD with two augers, 6' box blade, and 5' tiller. I talked to the dealer about a Land Pride grapple and was told their grapples were overpriced. I wound up purchasing a MTL 5' grapple and forks.

I will start with a little background. I bought a used 2006 Mahindra 2615 gear in 2008 to keep the family land in a somewhat respectable state. In my area, Sweetgum and Cedar trees will take over vacant land if left unattended for a few years. Our land was becoming a jungle. This piece of property was bought by my great-grandfather well over a 100 years ago and I knew one day it would be transferred to me and nobody was keeping it up. The little Mahindra did everything I asked of it for 12 years. The only repair not caused by me was a fan belt. With the Mahindra I was able to reclaim much of the 72 acres and keep trails up and help with food plots on our hunting leases.

My parents are getting older and last year transferred the property to me. My wife and I decided to build a cabin on the property which meant I needed to do more than just keep the fields clear. I wanted to keep about 7-10 acres cut regularly and another 5ish acres cut semi regularly. Another 15ish acres will get cut once a year. Also, I need to do better job keeping up about half a mile of gravel road and I have a levee that needs occasional work for access to the back of the property. I do a lot of grapple work pushing up small trees and clearing thickets.

I work fulltime and will for the next 8 years. I wanted my retirement tractor and a little more tractor than the Mahindra to make the best use of my time. The cab and HST was a requirement when I began kicking tires. Another requirement was metal hood and fenders. I have a John Deere GT235 lawnmower and my experience with plastic on a tool has not been positive at all. The metal hood on the Mahindra never created any problems for me through heavy use.

My search began with Mahindra but the local dealer really didn't have much inventory of cabbed tractors in the size I was looking at. I visited the Kubota dealer and really liked the Grand L cabbed tractors. Then I had to determine the best size (HP). I decided the 4760 was perfect for my needs. The dealer had two cabbed 6060s and the 5460 I ultimately bought after a couple of months of shopping. I was able to get the 5460 for less than a 4760 because the tractor had been on the lot for eight months and there had been two prices increase in that time and the dealer sold the 5460 under the "old" price structure.

My hope is to provide an honest review that may help others. I don't bleed orange and don't get hung up on my whatever is better that another person's whatever. My uses include mostly FEL work and bush hogging with occasional box blade, tiller, PHD, etc. To date, I have 55 hours on the tractor and just finished the 50 hour service. Approximately half those hours have been bush hogging and half FEL work to include bucket, forks, and grapple. My attempt will be to give my opinion, likes, and dislikes.

Cab The cab is great. The AC works great even on the hottest Mississippi days. We had a mild winter this year but the heat seemed to work great. I really like the space of the cab and the flat floor. One dislike is that the cab light does not come on when you open the doors. This is bit of an issue as I park in a shipping container which can be really dark inside. I like the seat. I know there are others that really don稚 like the Grand L seat but it fits me well and I like the arm rests. It is way more comfortable than my Mahindra. I should mention I am 5'10" and 165 lbs. Those that have seat problems seem to be a bit heavier.

For those who are considering a cabbed tractor and concerned about operation around trees and in wooded areas, cabs are not as fragile as I had imagined. I have given the pole saw a real work out but I have also had quite a few limbs smack the glass and roof with no damage to date. The key is to watch what you are doing. I planned to keep the Mahindra for work in wooded areas but sold it a couple of weeks ago because it was not being used.

The cab has turned what used to be work into a true pleasure and is worth every cent it cost. No dust, AC, no bugs, radio, and most importantly at the end of the day I can get off the tractor and not need a shower and nap. The cab is a bit nosier than I anticipated.

Controls - Overall I like the layout of the controls with the exception of the digital dash control. One button to control everything is a horrible design. The panel itself is good but the control of the panel is a real pain. I am getting used to the HST pedal. My JD mower has the dual pedals while the Kubota has the single pedal. This has been discussed for years on TBN. I can use either setup and don't know which I prefer.

I miss having a clutch for PTO work. With the electric PTO switch I throttle down every time I spin the bush hog up where as with my Mahindra I used the clutch and didn't touch the throttle. I have yet to use the PHD with the Kubota but I think I will really miss a clutch with the PHD. The differential pedal is way too stiff. Kubota should really fix this.

The FEL stick is really stiff and tends to stick. The FEL stick was much better on my economy Mahindra. When I have time I plan to remove the interior panel and to see if there is an adjustment or maybe it just needs lubrication. Another dislike is the third function control switch. The way I hold the stick I tend to hit the switch when operating the FEL causing the grapple to open or close when I don't want to. The WR Long third function on my Mahindra had this switch on the side such that I put palm on the ball and used my thumb to operate the switch. This made for smoother operation for me. Also the on/off switch is held to the stick by a hose clamp. It looks like something I cobbled together and out of place in the cab of a "premium" tractor.

Also, the range selector is really finicky. I tend to run mostly in mid-range and use the hi/low selector within each range but it seems every time I need to shift to low range or back to mid the range selector is stubborn.

Visibility - The design is great when looking to the rear. No gas tank like on my Mahindra to block the view. Front visibility is terrible compared to my Mahindra. I cannot see the center of the bucket or grapple like I could with the Mahindra. I am getting used to it but the design of the hood really limits visibility.

Fit and finish - Metal hood and fenders like a tractor should have. I did not even consider JD because of my experience with the plastic hood on my GT235 that is only used on my 1.5 acre subdivision lot. Overall the fit finish is good. Inside the cab everything feels well made. Same on the exterior other than the plastic nose piece and the absolutely horrible design of the exposed FEL lines which gets worst when you add the third function. It's a tractor that will used on rough terrain. I partially solved this problem with a skid plate that protects much of the soft underbelly. Kubota really needs to address this. For anyone who plans to use a Grand L (especially with third function) in rough terrain, do some research as to how others have improved this situation. I have a thread on the skid plate I had made.

Refueling - Kubota got this right. The fuel filler neck is at waist height and the beeper when the tank is almost full turned refueling into an easy task.

Servicing - Overall Kubota got this right. The one piece hood and side panels makes access easy to most items. The dipstick can be accesses without raising the hood. The grease fittings are easy to access. I really like that four of the grease fittings on the FEL can be accessed within inches of each other. On my Mahindra I had to kneel several different times to access the same fittings. Also, many of the grease fittings are recessed to prevent them from being broken off (I had this happen on my Mahindra).

A couple of items I don't like are that to get to the oil filter I have to remove a panel with two bolts and the oil filler hole is covered by a wiring harness. I use one funnel to service everything I own but had to get another funnel for this tractor. Also the third function hoses are in the way of the HST and hydraulic filters. One other minor gripe is that to remove the radiator screen which I have to do often when bush hogging is that the FEL must be up and you have to remove the �ront skirt? On my Mahindra, this screen pulled out from the top which is a much better design.

HST - I absolutely love HST after spending 12 years with a gear tractor. I left a lot of oak trees scattered in fields and HST makes bush hogging around them so much faster. Also, HST and FEL work go together like peas and carrots. The hi/low selector within each range is right up there with sliced bread. This one feature makes HST plus worth the cost. I would not want a tractor without this feature. Stall guard and throttle up are useful but I really don稚 use them much.

Other stuff - I have yet to find a good place to mount a tool box. Kubota should provide a tool box on a "premium" tractor. I would really like to know what cup Kubota measured for the cup holder. Every cup or bottle I put in the cup holder rattles and moves around.

I had a quick hitch on my Mahindra but I don't think I will need one with the extendable lower arms on the Kubota. I like Kubota's design of the adjustable side link.

I have not bought a hydraulic top link yet so I cannot provide an opinion on the rear remote.

The head lights, work lights, and rear lights all need to be brighter but I think this is common on most tractors. I plan to upgrade the front and rear work lights at some point to LED.

Regeneration to date has been a nonissue. I am at 55 hours and just experienced my third regeneration. I think this will happen less often in the future as I built a man lift which I spent a good bit of time using while painting the cabin. This was a fair number of hours at just above idle while my wife moved me up down and all around.

I broke the FEL level indicator at about 30 hours and have yet to have it welded. I seldom used it on my last tractor so no big deal. This was my fault but seems the setup seems is a bit flimsy.

Overall - I think 4760 would have met all my needs but having a few more HP is always nice. The Kubota 5460 overall is a great tractor. The cab and HST plus are great for my uses. The 4760, 5460, 6060 are the perfect size and capability for my general property maintenance and improvement needs.

My biggest complaints are the FEL/third function hose routing, FEL control stick, intellipanel control and front visibility.

Best features for me are HST plus, cab, and metal hood and fenders.

This is by far my longest TBN post. I hope it helps someone.
 
   / Grand L 5460 review #3  
Great review in my opinion. Sounds like a nice tractor and a good purchase for you.
 
   / Grand L 5460 review #4  
Excellent review. I have a 6060 just came back today from 50 hour service and replacing the standard seat with the air ride as the standard would not support my 240 pounds. Will say Kubota did not stand behind their week suspension on the seat, it was the dealer and myself. A big negative with Kubota in my book..you say a seat will support up to 265 and it fails, then stand behind it.

You mentioned a beeper on filling the fuel tank, not aware of that. Does the tractor have to be turned on or what for it to work?

On tool box location, think have one for you. I looked at it with my salesman and he agreed. On the back of the cab, there is a metal below the back glass with what sort of looks like license plate mounting place. We believe it would support a reasonable size tool box but the area I believe is the strongest is the mount for the rear remote. Remove the two bolts that bolt the valve to that mount and may need to get slightly longer bolts. If you can find a tool box that could be bolted there and also to the plate mentioned first believe it would be solid and out of the way yet easy to reach.

Yes Kubtoa cut a corner they should not have with no auto on for cab light switch.

Maybe the JD 4000R series has the same "cost savings" as Kubota but based upon my JD experience doubt it. FYI this is my 3rd Kubota and by far the highest price but has disappointed me in such areas compared to my other two. Based upon my JD experience their hood holds up very well. Had JD had side windows (that opened but they had no side windows only long door) most likely would have bought a JD 4066R. Please don't tell me JD parts cost more. Kubota light in front of cab is right at $140 and the net that goes behind the grill is $355. Yep on new unit have to replace them. USER error. Also don't think JD has hoses and FEL valve so exposed as JD is under the right step. I do like the two speeds in each range with Kubota.
 
   / Grand L 5460 review
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Excellent review. I have a 6060 just came back today from 50 hour service and replacing the standard seat with the air ride as the standard would not support my 240 pounds. Will say Kubota did not stand behind their week suspension on the seat, it was the dealer and myself. A big negative with Kubota in my book..you say a seat will support up to 265 and it fails, then stand behind it.

You mentioned a beeper on filling the fuel tank, not aware of that. Does the tractor have to be turned on or what for it to work?

On tool box location, think have one for you. I looked at it with my salesman and he agreed. On the back of the cab, there is a metal below the back glass with what sort of looks like license plate mounting place. We believe it would support a reasonable size tool box but the area I believe is the strongest is the mount for the rear remote. Remove the two bolts that bolt the valve to that mount and may need to get slightly longer bolts. If you can find a tool box that could be bolted there and also to the plate mentioned first believe it would be solid and out of the way yet easy to reach.

Yes Kubtoa cut a corner they should not have with no auto on for cab light switch.

Maybe the JD 4000R series has the same "cost savings" as Kubota but based upon my JD experience doubt it. FYI this is my 3rd Kubota and by far the highest price but has disappointed me in such areas compared to my other two. Based upon my JD experience their hood holds up very well. Had JD had side windows (that opened but they had no side windows only long door) most likely would have bought a JD 4066R. Please don't tell me JD parts cost more. Kubota light in front of cab is right at $140 and the net that goes behind the grill is $355. Yep on new unit have to replace them. USER error. Also don't think JD has hoses and FEL valve so exposed as JD is under the right step. I do like the two speeds in each range with Kubota.

I hope your seat issue is solved. I followed your thread on the issue. Please post if you mount a toolbox. I just have not had much free time since I purchased the tractor. We started a cabin in October and that has taken all my free time.

To use the fuel indicator beep, I open the right door and turn the key to the on position. When fuel gets to gets to a certain level you will hear a beep which gets more continuous the closer the tank gets to full. No more over filling. I hope I described that right.
 
   / Grand L 5460 review #6  
I hope your seat issue is solved. I followed your thread on the issue. Please post if you mount a toolbox. I just have not had much free time since I purchased the tractor. We started a cabin in October and that has taken all my free time.

To use the fuel indicator beep, I open the right door and turn the key to the on position. When fuel gets to gets to a certain level you will hear a beep which gets more continuous the closer the tank gets to full. No more over filling. I hope I described that right.


That sounds like a really cool feature. My methodology is to run till below quarter tank and dump four gallons in. Unfortunate with the MX I have to stand on the tire to refuel.
 
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I found reviews on TBN very helpful when selecting my first tractor and my current tractor. That is why I posted my review. Sunday afternoon I had the tractor out for a couple of hours and thought about how a couple of the issues I mentioned in my review have improved and thought I should update this review. The tractor now has 90 hours. The range selector was really tight and finicky but has loosened up over time and now operates easily and smooth. I replaced the return spring on the differential lock per a post by fellow TBN member Philip8N which really improved the operation of the differential lock. Not sure why Kubota make the differential lock so stiff.

I have yet to use the rear remote but I have ordered a hydraulic top link from Fit Rite that should arrive in time for my planned spring grading project. My next up grade will be to add expanded metal to the grill guard. I managed to bend the hood and grill a bit using the grapple but I was able to mostly straighten the metal hood and grill.

I still have not added a tool box but plan to in the future. The small interior tool box will hold the basics. I keep a few spare pins, two adjustable wrenches, large flat tip screw driver, and a hammer in the interior storage slot.

Every time I use the tractor I am glad I decided on the cab. The hi/low selector within each range is still one of my favorite features. The FEL control is still tight and can stick at times.
 
   / Grand L 5460 review #8  
I just got a new Grand L5460 cab about 3 weeks ago. I really like it overall. I haven’t experienced any issues with fel joystick. Has awesome hydraulics, very responsive and smooth. Seems to shift pretty well between H-M-L, and only has about 7 hours in it so far.
I actually don’t really care for LED lights. I prefer the halogen. So I’m happy with the lighting on it.
In fact I bought a new Tacoma last year and went with the base model SR because it had halogen headlights. All the TRD models I found had the LED headlight option.
I could’ve gotten a JD 4052R cab for about 6k less with the incentives they had. But glad I bought Kubota instead. I read a lot on them and watched quite a few reviews, and JD has a lot of negatives, especially their cab.
 

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