Help with Long 360 (Universal 560) Power Steering

[northoak]

Hello. I live in Manitoba, Canada and I own a Universal 560 (Long 360) in U.S.A). I believe it's a 1985/6. The Power steering pump died on me and I ordered a new one from the Malpas company in England (cheapest price believe it or not!). Problem is that the input and output points on the new pump are on opposite sides from the original! I checked with the manufacturer (Sparex) via the Malpas people in England and they say this is the pump for my tractor. Now, if the hydraulics were hoses this wouldn't be such a problem. However (there's ALWAYS a however or I wouldn't be typing this!), the "hoses" on these tractors are steel pipes and the connections are via what looks like miniature thermostat housings.

First question; has anyone else run into this situation? How did you handle this? I believe Sparex is an American company so I'd imagine someone out there has used this pump to replace the existing one.

My idea would be moving the pipes. That would mean cutting each side at some point, adding some kind of flexible hose "in the middle" and reconnecting. I've been told that the input side has very little pressure (Is this true???) so a simple hose of the correct size could be double hose clamped. The output side is another matter. I believe the inner diameter of the output is 10mm. Could I double flare the existing pipe and add some line of the correct size?

Any help would be appreciated as winter is on it's way and I need this thing to snowblow my 1/4 mile lane. Thanks in advance.

 

[luvmexfood]

Hello. I live in Manitoba, Canada and I own a Universal 560 (Long 360) in U.S.A). I believe it's a 1985/6. The Power steering pump died on me and I ordered a new one from the Malpas company in England (cheapest price believe it or not!). Problem is that the input and output points on the new pump are on opposite sides from the original! I checked with the manufacturer (Sparex) via the Malpas people in England and they say this is the pump for my tractor. Now, if the hydraulics were hoses this wouldn't be such a problem. However (there's ALWAYS a however or I wouldn't be typing this!), the "hoses" on these tractors are steel pipes and the connections are via what looks like miniature thermostat housings.

First question; has anyone else run into this situation? How did you handle this? I believe Sparex is an American company so I'd imagine someone out there has used this pump to replace the existing one.

My idea would be moving the pipes. That would mean cutting each side at some point, adding some kind of flexible hose "in the middle" and reconnecting. I've been told that the input side has very little pressure (Is this true???) so a simple hose of the correct size could be double hose clamped. The output side is another matter. I believe the inner diameter of the output is 10mm. Could I double flare the existing pipe and add some line of the correct size?

Any help would be appreciated as winter is on it's way and I need this thing to snowblow my 1/4 mile lane. Thanks in advance.

If it is the same as the

 

[northoak]

We seem to have lost most of your reply.

 

[luvmexfood]

Having computer problems so please ignore the start of the above post. If I am thinking correctly the pressure side should come out the top. That's the way it is for the pump for the three point hitch. If you have pressure on the bottom side could you simply rotate the pump 180 deg. and reinstall. Pretty sure it is the same pump as used for the 3 point hitch.

Make sure you get the o-ring that goes inside the metal tube back in and be careful tighting the screws that hold the tubing on. They are soft and will shear easily. Let me know if you need a copy of the service manual. I have a pdf one that I might be able to post on hear for you.

 

[northoak]

Well, I just went out & looked at the tractor & new pump again. I can't see how to just flip it over ( short of taking the "guts" of the pump apart; a job I don't want to tackle). The output shaft of the pump is offset to one side so if I simply turn the pump 90 degrees it won't fit into the mount on the tractor. Is it possible they put it together wrong? Hmmm.

 

[northoak]

Oops, I meant 180°. BTW, thanks for the offer of the service manual but I already have one. Do you have a pdf of the parts manual? That I don't have. Can't afford the $100 they want for one.

 

[luvmexfood]

Oops, I meant 180ｰ. BTW, thanks for the offer of the service manual but I already have one. Do you have a pdf of the parts manual? That I don't have. Can't afford the $100 they want for one.

Still having computer problems of some type so hope this comes thru. Don't have a parts manual. I found the service manual online one day and downloaded free.

Looked at a couple of places that had parts and it looks sort of like their might be more than one pump that was used on this tractor.

First quote is from Import Tractor Parts and second is from Longparts.

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You must be frustrated for sure. BTW I think the pump for the lift for a 510 was around $143.00 shipped and I found it on Ebay.



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[northoak]

Thank you so much for your help! I never knew about either of these dealers. Turns out Import has a Canadian mailing address. Who knew!?! I sent them an email. I will let you know if they can help. Thank you again.

Jack