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I recently bought a business that has approximately 4 acres of gravel lot,a bout half of which is taken up by stored boats. The lot sees infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day). The gravel lot was in rough shape when i purchased the business and i would like to repair and maintain it. I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend? I've thought of perhaps a tractor/box blade, or a skid steer ("Bobcat"), or a backhoe, but am not experienced enough in grading to choose intelligently. If you have a recommendation, could you please include model and/or minimum horsepower. Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
 
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WP Congratulations on your purchase. It's an exciting time to mold a company to the standards and ethics of the new owner.
That JD5075M ought to be able to pull a land plane just fine. Here's a link to one showing how it's used

As you decide to purchase, you want weight. An owner's manual from Deere ought to give you some guidelines on what weight you can pull. I'd say, about the same weight as their recommended box blade
 
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Tractors are designed to smooth land, using Three Point Hitch mounted implements.

Moving boat trailers utilizing a ball hitch on e the front and/or rear of a tractor is a common 4-WD tractor application.

You can calculate how long it will take you to smooth eighty acres using a Land Plane/Grading Scraper by entering 4 mph + LPGS width into following Mowing Calculator.



For eighty (80) acres you should consider a commercial LPGS:


Four models requiring a spread of 60 horsepower to 150 horsepower.

LPGS has almost zero learning curve for the tractor operator.

If it is dry and dusty where you are, consider a cab tractor.

After you decide what weight and width LPGS you may desire, we can give you a tractor recommendation.


The lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc.

Second recommendation for an implement is a rear/angle/scrape blade:

VIDEOS: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compact+tractor+scrape,+rear,+angle,+blade



When considering a tractor purchase, bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR.
 
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...Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc...

Be aware...regardless of what implement you choose the physical characteristics of mixed gravel etc. and the differences of specific gravity cause different sizes to separate from the fines and collect together the more the area is worked...working when the lot/gravel is wet greatly reduces this effect...

If the 40 acres was of more uniform sized gravel...a land plane would be the ideal implement IMO...but I would consider renting or borrowing a landscape rake etc. and collect and remove (or bury) the "fist sized chunks"...

Adding fines to areas of loose gravel will help it pack down...
 
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40 acres of graveled parking lot. Seems odd.
40 acres of parking lot would be larger than a huge shopping mall lot, wouldn't it?
A 4 (four) acre parking lot would be tremendous.
40 acres would be over 1.7 million square feet, enough room to park well over 80,000 cars!?!!!

I'm thinking out loud here.
 
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40 acres of parking lot would be larger than a huge shopping mall lot, wouldn't it?
A 4 (four) acre parking lot would be tremendous.
40 acres would be over 1.7 million square feet, enough room to park well over 80,000 cars!?!!!

I'm thinking out loud here.

The biggest parking lot I can find is in Edmonton Canada and holds 20000 cars.

MoKelly
 
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A large compact track loader with a commercial land plane as a bare minimum.
 
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40 acres of parking lot would be larger than a huge shopping mall lot, wouldn't it?
A 4 (four) acre parking lot would be tremendous.
40 acres would be over 1.7 million square feet, enough room to park well over 80,000 cars!?!!!

I'm thinking out loud here.
I got about 8k cars with (40*43560)/(8*25) granted I was generous with the parking area per car but my pickup truck is big :D
 
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So, you have 40 acres of gravel lot for 20 vehicles per day? I would humbly suggest, simply not having 40 acres of gravel, instead. 40 acres can hold a lot of critter habitat, or grow a lot of plants. Having a gigantic expanse of gravel that you have to maintain, for no real purpose, is frankly rather insane. You could collect the gravel and sell it instead (hire this out).
 
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Takes me six hours to mow a 20 acre field with a 9' disc mower. Grading you'd be moving slower, compact tractor so 6' max land plane? Bring a snickers.
 
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Having been around construction a motor grader would be the tool of choice for the pros but maybe not the best choice for someone to start out with. I’d say the largest tractor you could afford with a land plane.

I agree on the 40 acres comments, that’s 1/4 mile by 1/4 mile area. Do you need that much? If not make it smaller over a period of time.
 
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I recently bought a business that has approximately 40 acres of gravel lot. The lot sees infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day). The gravel lot was in rough shape when i purchased the business and i would like to repair and maintain it. I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend? I've thought of perhaps a tractor/box blade, or a skid steer ("Bobcat"), or a backhoe, but am not experienced enough in grading to choose intelligently. If you have a recommendation, could you please include model and/or minimum horsepower. Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Im pretty much with Egon. Its even likely that a 3PT Power Brush and a Field Drag would keep it well maintained long term after an initial grading.
 
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I recently bought a business that has approximately 40 acres of gravel lot. The lot sees infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day). The gravel lot was in rough shape when i purchased the business and i would like to repair and maintain it. I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend? I've thought of perhaps a tractor/box blade, or a skid steer ("Bobcat"), or a backhoe, but am not experienced enough in grading to choose intelligently. If you have a recommendation, could you please include model and/or minimum horsepower. Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

You already have a bunch of tractors correct? Why not grab an implement for one of them and try that first.

Where are you? Do you need to clear snow? I assume if a boat storage facility the answer would be no, unless someone happens to be moving to a new area and needs to transport it.

In general, when you pull a grading tool behind the wheels of a tractor you need to do more passes to level the ground enough for the tires not to impact the grade . When your blade is in front of the wheels/tracks the smoothing happens first, minimizing the blade movement when the tires run over uneven ground. Tracks are usually better than tires for grading…simply 2 larger contact points instead of 4 small ones. Sure you could go with an actual grader, but that seems like overkill for a lot…and it is tough to maneuver if you have tighter spots.

Best? I would do a tracked loader (ie skid steer with tracks) and a 4 in 1 bucket on the front. Very easy to maneuver in tighter spaces, 4 in 1 will have a blade on the front for grading and you have a bucket for moving dirt. You can also get a LPGS for a Skid steer.

Is it really 40 acres? That’s like a housing subdivision.
 
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Using the 8 ft model, it will take you about 12 hours to make one pass on 40 acres. I normally make 2-3 passes on my driveway. That is a lot of seat time but the unit is less than $2500.

I use a 72" unit and have a 40 hp machine. With the 8 ft model I suggest a 50-60 hp tractor.

The advantage of the leveler is almost no skill or training is needed. Hook it up, and drag it around.
 
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Right now our local quarry #57 gravel is $37/ton delivered. They're 14 miles one way from here. At that rate to put down 2" of #57s on 40 acres would be right at $1/2 Mil.
When we had our 500 ft driveway which is very close to level it was quite a bit of work which is why 20 years ago had it paved.
I'm with others is figure out how much you need and maintain just that.
40 acres is a 12 ft wide driveway 27.5 miles long!
 
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Right now our local quarry #57 gravel is $37/ton delivered. They're 14 miles one way from here. At that rate to put down 2" of #57s on 40 acres would be right at $1/2 Mil.
When we had our 500 ft driveway which is very close to level it was quite a bit of work which is why 20 years ago had it paved.
I'm with others is figure out how much you need and maintain just that.
40 acres is a 12 ft wide driveway 27.5 miles long!
Our already well established driveway is 1mi long and takes about 10T of #57 per year to maintain here in VA with winter freeze thaw. Maintenance is using the power brush at an angle to sweep the edges toward the middle, then bucket sprinkling on a patina of gravel where needed, then field dragging 1 round trip with a 6' drag. I guess you could call driving on it part of the maintenance. - Thats free. - Drive in the right places keeps the whole surface too packed to grow weeds.

I dont know where the OP is located. His conditions could be better maybe.
 
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Congratulations on your new business👍
Having experience with a travellift, they like flat ground and get funny when one wheel gets above the other 3.
I'd hire a road grader for a day to things back in order. After this you can routinely "touch up" where needed using the previously graded areas as your visual guide. I agree with the guys that reccomend a land plane. This is a truly (another) "commercial" unit that I can recommend from having one.
As for the machine, I'd think that a 4wd 80+ hp tractor with a loader would be a versatile choice for what you've described.
 
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I'm just trying to understand "infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day)." Why the OP would need forty acres! That's an awful lot of LOT!
I just think maybe rope off an area (orange pylon cones and rope?) Seeing how it works...what's needed...adjust to suit.
Then make a decision on that 90% area that never will be used. Sell that gravel, soil+grass, etc.
 
  
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I appreciate all the feedback. Let me try to answer your questions.

First of all, did I say forty acres? Yikes :oops: , I meant four acres lol. And almost half of that has boats on it, so most of the ongoing maintenance will be on the remaining 2 acres. It's sort of like 40 foot wide driveways running between the stored boats. I wonder if the smaller lot size changes what some of you might suggest? I apologize if my typo sent some of you in the wrong direction with your suggestions.

I do not have any tractor now.

I am in the sunbelt so snow isn't an issue.

It seems from the feedback above that the consensus is around either a skid steer with a bucket (and preferably tracks), or a tractor with a land planer. Rustyiron had suggested 80HP or larger tractor. Does that still stand given the smaller size of the lot?

As another point of interest, the boats are too big to trailer, so I can only work under them once they're moved by the Travelift and launched. Or I guess i could move them one at a time as i grade, but that's about an hour per boat, and seems unnecessary to me as they all get moved sooner or later anyways.

By the way, I have received two quotes for pros to come in and fix the lot with gravel, and two quotes to replace with asphalt. I'm not sure if the quotes are reasonable or not. One gravel quote was for $55,000 and included 39 loads of slag fines, cleaning up the big chunks in the lot, grading and a vibratory roller. The other gravel quote was for $10,000 and included an unspecified volume of crushed asphalt and grading.

The asphalt quotes were for a smaller area (345ftx45ft). One asphalt company offered to do a 2 in mill and pave with 2in binder - approximately 12 tons - for $42,000.00, or to do a 4 in with type C binder for $59,000.00. The second asphalt company quoted to excavate and remove base course, install 8in of crushed concrete base, structural fabric, and 3 inches of "intermediate B binder course asphalt for $118,000. The second asphalt company insisted that 8 inches of base and structural fabric were necessary. I do not know if that is true or not and would like to hear your experienced opinions on this as well.

Thanks again for all the help!
 
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I appreciate all the feedback. Let me try to answer your questions.

First of all, did I say forty acres? Yikes :oops: , I meant four acres lol. And almost half of that has boats on it, so most of the ongoing maintenance will be on the remaining 2 acres. It's sort of like 40 foot wide driveways running between the stored boats. I wonder if the smaller lot size changes what some of you might suggest? I apologize if my typo sent some of you in the wrong direction with your suggestions.

I do not have any tractor now.

I am in the sunbelt so snow isn't an issue.

It seems from the feedback above that the consensus is around either a skid steer with a bucket (and preferably tracks), or a tractor with a land planer. Rustyiron had suggested 80HP or larger tractor. Does that still stand given the smaller size of the lot?

As another point of interest, the boats are too big to trailer, so I can only work under them once they're moved by the Travelift and launched. Or I guess i could move them one at a time as i grade, but that's about an hour per boat, and seems unnecessary to me as they all get moved sooner or later anyways.

By the way, I have received two quotes for pros to come in and fix the lot with gravel, and two quotes to replace with asphalt. I'm not sure if the quotes are reasonable or not. One gravel quote was for $55,000 and included 39 loads of slag fines, cleaning up the big chunks in the lot, grading and a vibratory roller. The other gravel quote was for $10,000 and included an unspecified volume of crushed asphalt and grading.

The asphalt quotes were for a smaller area (345ftx45ft). One asphalt company offered to do a 2 in mill and pave with 2in binder - approximately 12 tons - for $42,000.00, or to do a 4 in with type C binder for $59,000.00. The second asphalt company quoted to excavate and remove base course, install 8in of crushed concrete base, structural fabric, and 3 inches of "intermediate B binder course asphalt for $118,000. The second asphalt company insisted that 8 inches of base and structural fabric were necessary. I do not know if that is true or not and would like to hear your experienced opinions on this as well.

Thanks again for all the help!

no way will the cheap asphalt stand up to the boats/travel lift. it will be terrible in short term and cost you 10x to fix later. go around and look at other yards? are they asphalt?

leave it gravel. I think more gravel/road base, grading and compacting sounds like a good plan, though that does seem expensive. when you call and say "what would you do to fix this" they see someone that does not know. spec something out and get quotes for that, like place 3-4 inches of road base, grade and compact with vibratory roller.

if you can do concrete pad 6in+ with rebar for the "parking" and asphalt for the "road" it may work. but i bet the asphalt will squish out a lot under the load of the travelift. look at a heavy truck route road that has asphalt intersections and see the "squish" in the lanes.
 
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How bad is this area now and how long was it neglected? Paving is not the answer!
With the much (MUCH)😆 smaller area, I'd have to reconsider the HP requirement. Although with HP comes weight, a necessary requirement for dragging around an 8' land plane. I'd stay with this size for large area grading.
 
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Not being familiar with boat lifts (particularly of that size), I'm wondering how much it's compacted the ground (and how much/deep of compaction it requires to be supported).

Which makes me think that if it's anything like large cargo aircraft on dirt strips the absolute last thing a person would want to do is disturb any areas that don't need to be leveled/repaired....and only consider hiring professionals who've done similar work to repair the areas needing it (and any minimum area around those spots). Otherwise they could undo a lot of the compaction that is supporting the traveling of the lift and in turn cause a lot of other problems.

From the little I know about major roadways/interstates and runways, there's a lot more to building & maintaining them than there is to maintaining a driveway given the weight/pressure that needs to be supported and the depth of the compaction it may require.

..but then I'm also not a civil engineer so..... 🤷‍♂️
 
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I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend?
Check this out:


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Tractor + this + chain harrow when you don't need the LPGS.


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Having a drainage tile installer come in and lay drainage tile with a tile plow is more cost effective as the tile plow
will be driven over the acreage first to allow the laser grade control computer to fix the starting point for the drainage
tile and the end points where it drains into the road ditch.

Repairing the drainage is the first thing that needs to be done on this acreage before you do anything else as simply
adding aggregate and leveling it will not solve the frost heaving issues.

Having the drainage tile installer come in with a tracked tile laying plow will let you install drainage tile every 40-80 feet from
the drainage ditch by the road and then the property will properly drain for you and the ground will be firmer and you will
not have to deal with the mess you have now and you can have stone trucked in if needed in the most traveled areas.
 

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Go with a skid steer with the land plane attachment. You are going to need to be able to move around specific materials to targeted areas.

I just had a huge project go through my 40 acres and the guys with road knowledge used a skid steer to put in place and and spread their initial rock to stabilize their base, and then groomed the top.

They then brought through several tens of millions of dollars of equipment with quite a few pieces of equipment over 50 tons loading and unloading on the pad. ....Their strategy was to stabilize at ground level or in holes with 'bull rock', and use smaller gravels and topsoil to stabilize the top. They also used heavy timber mats on the perimeters to support the excessive weights. ....It has worked just as planned and they are getting ready to tear it all out in the next few weeks and restore it all to prior conditions, leaving me a 40 foot driveway built to withstand some of the heaviest loads in the industry.

With this in mind, I would suggest affordable equipment and a lot of time learning how surface stabilization is done in heavy equipment use situations.
 

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I would probably use a 6' 3 point landscape rake with guage wheels (Landpride LR1684 or LR2684)
on a 30-35 hp 4wd CUT. I had a Kubota B7800 (30hp) t/l with a 60" rake w/ guage wheels. Worked wonders on my gravel drive.
 

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I recently bought a business that has approximately 40 acres of gravel lot. The lot sees infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day). The gravel lot was in rough shape when i purchased the business and i would like to repair and maintain it. I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend? I've thought of perhaps a tractor/box blade, or a skid steer ("Bobcat"), or a backhoe, but am not experienced enough in grading to choose intelligently. If you have a recommendation, could you please include model and/or minimum horsepower. Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I will throw in my 2 cents.
#1, a good sized compact tractor. Not a sub compact. It will be more versatile across your needs.
Things to look for:
#1, weight. You are looking primarily for "ground engaging" uses. This takes torque and needs weight to apply that torque to the ground.
#2, get a shuttle shift transmission. Not a hydro. Same reasons as above. Yes, lots of folks will chime in with storied benefits of a hydro transmission. However, simple facts are that a solid gear will out pull a hydro all day long. If you are grading 40 acres, that is serious work on a transmission. You can look on YouTube, there is a kubota dealer who did a pull test with 2 similar tractors. Hydro vs gear. NO comparison!
#3, fill your tires with rim guard. It's not expensive and will make a WORLD of difference in your stability and traction.
#4 look at frame size/ weight more than HP.
My 36 hp tractor with loader and filled tires weighs 7,000 lbs. But there are sub compact 32-35 hp "tractors" that weigh around 1700 and would not even pretend to pull the land plane that you will need.
#5, RENT.
Go to the local rental store, rent a compact tractor and landscape rake for a weekend for $200.
Just see what you think.
If you can find a land plane to rent, do that too.
It might help you choose what you want, and just as importantly, what you don't.
 

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I will suggest you look at what your future plans and goals are. Is it just maintenance , or expansion, grading for drainage, do you need to tow anything in the future. Sounds like the boats are something you will never have to move yourself or will you? Small equipment does light work, heavy equipment can do heavy work.
 
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40 acres of parking lot would be larger than a huge shopping mall lot, wouldn't it?
A 4 (four) acre parking lot would be tremendous.
40 acres would be over 1.7 million square feet, enough room to park well over 80,000 cars!?!!!

I'm thinking out loud here.
I enjoy reminding people that a football field is a little over an acre in size so this parking lot is the size of 40 football fields. That's a big parking lot.
 

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4 acres, between blocked up boats. Moving the boats with a strap lift. I think you would want to do an initial, large equipment, levelling depending on how bad it is. . But then for maintenance you might get by with a much smaller tractor (mahindra MAX, kabota BX) to drag something for semi weekly maintenance. Those boat hoists do like level ground when driving a boat to launch. Now that I understand a bit better, I'd say you don't want to constantly loosen the gravel, just keep it groomed. Almost like the Saudi dragged a chain link fence behind a Gator, to keep the ball fields neat
 

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First of all, did I say forty acres? Yikes :oops: , I meant four acres lol. And almost half of that has boats on it, so most of the ongoing maintenance will be on the remaining 2 acres. It's sort of like 40 foot wide driveways running between the stored boats. I wonder if the smaller lot size changes what some of you might suggest?
There are some companies that make a skid steer land plane grading scraper that is the same style as a tractor 3 point one:

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My brother and I made an adjustable box grader and he had a hydraulic top link. I don't get impressed much, but the box grader impressed me.
 

macklong

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Location
Idaho
Tractor
JCB MIDI CX4, 1949 Farmall supper A, Polaris Ranger 900XP
I recently bought a business that has approximately 40 acres of gravel lot. The lot sees infrequent automobile use (5-15 cars/day), and less frequent use by a seventy-ton capacity Marine Travelift carrying up to 80,000 lbs of boat (up to 4 times a day). The gravel lot was in rough shape when i purchased the business and i would like to repair and maintain it. I know nothing about grading but can drive a tractor. If I Only Buy One Piece of Equiptment to fix/maintain this lot, what would you recommend? I've thought of perhaps a tractor/box blade, or a skid steer ("Bobcat"), or a backhoe, but am not experienced enough in grading to choose intelligently. If you have a recommendation, could you please include model and/or minimum horsepower. Oh, i should maybe mention the lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc. Any help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
I would recommend a Mauldine/PSI M413XT road maintainer. It is very versatile machine, has a front loader, rippers and is a light duty grader. One thing i like about it is the front loader is the same as a skid steer plate attachment with live hydraulic remotes on the front to run anything a skid steer would do. With this machine you could grade and haul gravel from one spot to another.
 

kpsp50

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May 28, 2009
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70
Location
snowflake, az
Tractor
Lenar tractor, nortrak dozer
Congratulations on you purchase wishing you a lot of luck I have to agree with metal master 10 that sounds like the best reasonable option at this point you can always change things later have very little tied up in the equipment
 

fried1765

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Kubota L48 TLB, Ford 1920 FEL, 8N Ford, Gravely 12 HP "Professional", 48" SCAG Liberty
Tractors are designed to smooth land, using Three Point Hitch mounted implements.

Moving boat trailers utilizing a ball hitch on e the front and/or rear of a tractor is a common 4-WD tractor application.

You can calculate how long it will take you to smooth eighty acres using a Land Plane/Grading Scraper by entering 4 mph + LPGS width into following Mowing Calculator.



For eighty (80) acres you should consider a commercial LPGS:


Four models requiring a spread of 60 horsepower to 150 horsepower.

LPGS has almost zero learning curve for the tractor operator.

If it is dry and dusty where you are, consider a cab tractor.

After you decide what weight and width LPGS you may desire, we can give you a tractor recommendation.


The lot seems to have undergone some haphazard repairs along the way. There are spots with #57 slag, fine slag, fist-sized concrete chunks, #8 stone, sand, etc.

Second recommendation for an implement is a rear/angle/scrape blade:

VIDEOS: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=compact+tractor+scrape,+rear,+angle,+blade



When considering a tractor purchase, bare tractor weight first, tractor horsepower second, rear axle width third, rear wheel/tire ballast fourth.

BUY ENOUGH TRACTOR.
Where did the "80 acres" come from?
The OP stated that he needs to grade a 40 acre lot!
 

IndyJay

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Location
S.E. Indiana
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Kioti DK4510MS w/Loader, Grapple Prev: Massey 1250
Where did the "80 acres" come from?
The OP stated that he needs to grade a 40 acre lot!
Where did "40 acres" come from?
The OP stated that he "overstated" by 36 acres... :ROFLMAO: :LOL:
 

fried1765

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Kubota L48 TLB, Ford 1920 FEL, 8N Ford, Gravely 12 HP "Professional", 48" SCAG Liberty
I would recommend a Mauldine/PSI M413XT road maintainer. It is very versatile machine, has a front loader, rippers and is a light duty grader. One thing i like about it is the front loader is the same as a skid steer plate attachment with live hydraulic remotes on the front to run anything a skid steer would do. With this machine you could grade and haul gravel from one spot to another.
There is a 2001Mauldine currently listed for sale by Rowden & Sons in Watkinsville, GA.
$39,500. Phone # 706-338-8948.
The land plane idea might be OK, but would be very slow on a 40ac lot, and would not deal well with the rubble material already in the ground.
 

fried1765

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Kubota L48 TLB, Ford 1920 FEL, 8N Ford, Gravely 12 HP "Professional", 48" SCAG Liberty
The biggest parking lot I can find is in Edmonton Canada and holds 20000 cars.

MoKelly
Boats occupy HUGE spaces, and storage space cannot reasonably be compared to space required for cars.
I Summer stored my 44' DeFever in a Florida lot larger than 40ac.
 

Flad

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Jul 3, 2016
Messages
45
Location
Victoria
Tractor
cat 428b
Hi' Yes you have a big job maintaining your hard compacted surfaces, I had a similar problem on a much smaller block, thought about the options of various tractors and the costs in running and maintaining the equipment, forget a farm tractor! go for a earth moving wheeled front end loader back hoe, but most importantly make sure it has a four in one front bucket, it will do nearly all of your road maintenance including cleaning out drains, the only extra item needed is a heavy duty spreader /smudge bar that is held in place by clamping it in your front bucket, mine is made out of 4x4"I beams 12ft wide and 4ft long with extended side skid 6ft long rails that can be adjusted for height on a camber or both sides for spreading a consistent even layer of top dressing.
works best dragging backwards using steering brakes if extra down pressure is required.
Leaves a grader blade or box grader for dead.
I have a old Cat,428B loader back hoe and have even made a removable three point hydraulic set up on the back for a ripper and pipe layer, I use a vintage AOS6 Inter for every thing else.
 
 
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