I'm not some HMO Karen,, but whats going on in Rural Lane County Oregon just seems crazy.

[JasperFrank]

I'm seeing multi-thousand dollar two story homes moved in on wheels. Not just camper type trailers. These are bigger than the original house that is, I guess, was establishing the rent. Its very odd to me to see this happen, every where, and to think how stupid it was to follow the land use rules I was given. Yes, this is a rant. Cause the whole point to following the rules was to restrict stuff like this.

 

[CliffordK]

I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.

However, Urban Sprawl is a problem around a lot of cities. Oregon has tried to have land use planning. But, perhaps it is failing.

20+ acres are often working farms. Perhaps even 10 acres. But, 2 to 5 acres, and they're just home sites that people mow super large lawns.

A few years ago there was a ballot measure that essentially invalidated minimum parcel sizes.

Oregon Measure 37, Compensation for Land Use Restrictions that Decrease Property Value Initiative (2004)

Ballotpedia: The Encyclopedia of American Politics

ballotpedia.org

So, if your family owned property before it was rezoned to say 20 acre agricultural, or some large plot forestry zoning, then it would require the government to say make up the difference between perhaps 1 acre zoning, 5 acre zoning, 20 acre zoning, or 50 acre zoning. Essentially invalidating the whole zoning. At least for certain older property.

Many of the old farm houses from before the 1950's just need to get bulldozed and replaced. Tiny, falling apart, and nothing worth much in them. The lot is more valuable than the house.

I haven't paid a lot of attention to manufactured homes for quite some time. There is a manufacturer near Albany, Oregon, that used to advertise a lot. I have a second cousin in Nevada that got a 2 story (or one story + basement) manufactured home about 30 years ago. It seemed like a neat concept. But I didn't realize they had made it to Oregon. I haven't stayed in touch with that family, and unfortunately the whole family didn't survive well.

Manufactured homes are unique. They can have good insulation, but they seem to cut corners absolutely everywhere in the manufacturing.

I have an acquaintance that has 5 acres. It came with one partial house (not a fully functional legal house), and one single wide trailer that had an attached enclosed patio/living area. They moved in a double wide. And another single wide.

Now planning to tear out the original single wide and moving in a new double wide.

And probably build a stick built tiny home.

That tiny lot currently has 6 adults living there (2 disabled), and 2 more coming. I'm not quite sure why the government hasn't just said NO.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Home Owner Associations seem to be loosing their bite in court more and more today.

 

[oosik]

I'm out, quite a bit, in the country. About 25 miles SW of Spokane, WA. The zoning here requires a minimum lot size of 20 acres. I have 80 acres from an old homestead tract. It's more than enough to keep whatever the neighbors are doing - out of my sight.

As we can all tell from recent articles. It's NOT the HOA's that are protecting us. I say it's the rural zoning.

I honestly don't understand how a person can buy into a HOA and then be surprised when - you can't have an American flag in your front yard. Don't they read and understand the HOA rules.

 

[Yander]

I'm seeing multi-thousand dollar two story homes moved in on wheels. Not just camper type trailers. These are bigger than the original house that is, I guess, was establishing the rent. Its very odd to me to see this happen, every where, and to think how stupid it was to follow the land use rules I was given. Yes, this is a rant. Cause the whole point to following the rules was to restrict stuff like this.

Modular housing has been around for decades and though most don't want to hear this, they are built as well or better than many stick built homes.

I built a cape cod modular and though it was hauled in on a trailer, it was placed on a foundation. It was well built but in climate controlled environment.

Depends on the company and type of modular, some are not built as well (manufactured homes).

However, they still serve their purpose; shelter for good people.

 

[Yander]

I say bring on the urban sprawl, it gives we tractor guys some really nice extra income or retirement income.

These folks are buying big tracts of land with no clue, then we get a call. $$$

 

[Hay Dude]

I say bring on the urban sprawl, it gives we tractor guys some really nice extra income or retirement income.

These folks are buying big tracts of land with no clue, then we get a call. $$$

Dude,,,,, that’s my bread & butter. I have a lot of wealthy land owners who don’t know which end of a hammer beats in nails.

 

[Yander]

Dude,,,,, that’s my bread & butter. I have a lot of wealthy land owners who don’t know which end of a hammer beats in nails.

Yeah, well, don't temp me. I would love to leave corporate America. Yes, I forgot to add a lot of people are making a good living off of this urban sprawl pre-retirement.

 

[D&D]

I'm seeing multi-thousand dollar two story homes moved in on wheels. Not just camper type trailers. These are bigger than the original house that is, I guess, was establishing the rent. Its very odd to me to see this happen, every where, and to think how stupid it was to follow the land use rules I was given. Yes, this is a rant. Cause the whole point to following the rules was to restrict stuff like this.

Planning and zoning in lots of the country seems to be overridden by the politicians desires to have more voters. A politicians dream view from on high must be rooftops adorned with solar panels.
We have a 1 in 20 zoning, now they are allowing “accessory dwelling units”. One of the problems, they didn’t put any limits on that term.Now single family residential is multi-family.
Another big issue that’s reared up. Rifle/pistol ranges- Md. adopted legislation for concealed carry but put stipulations that you have training including live fire.No one is in charge of “range safety” or hours of operation. The 1 in 20 zoning means we have plenty of space for “pistol ranges” for the out of area people to use. The county has a P&Z ordinance saying any public shooting range requires a permit. However, they don’t have any enforcement mechanisms in place.

Be happy it’s houses, they are always trying to give us the less desirable aspects of rural living. Detention facility, solar “farms”, gravel pits, truck storage lots, low income apartment complex, etc.

 

[Oaktree]

Many of the old farm houses from before the 1950's just need to get bulldozed and replaced. Tiny, falling apart, and nothing worth much in them. The lot is more valuable than the house.

Curiously, what do you have against houses built before the 1950s? The fact that they aren't the sterile, cookie-cutter McMansions being built today? I live in an 1830s vintage farmhouse and love it.

I honestly don't understand how a person can buy into a HOA and then be surprised when - you can't have an American flag in your front yard. Don't they read and understand the HOA rules.

Do you read all the fine print in every document you sign or EULA you have to OK to install a program on a computer? No one else does either.

Home Owner Associations seem to be loosing their bite in court more and more today.

They aren't very common where I live, but IMHO good riddance. I'd never move somewhere that had one. Then again, I live in a town that has no zoning, building codes, etc. at all except for frontage requirements and septic approval (which is a state regulation).

We have a 1 in 20 zoning, now they are allowing “accessory dwelling units”.

What is "1 in 20 zoning"? Never heard the term before, and a Google search didn't turn up anything useful.