Insurance Insurance needed to finance through Kubota?

   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #11  
Generally speaking, your trailer is covered for liability and property damage insurance only when it is attached to your towing vehicle. If the items that are on the trailer are damaged, there is no insurance on them that will reimburse you for damage caused to them. If that item should fall off the trailer and cause damage to another's property, then you vehicles insurance will cover that portion of the claim only. If you want to have your tractor covered for physical damage when it is off the property, then you will need to secure a separate insurance policy. The same goes for liability insurance that would cover you as the operator for doing damage to others or others property while you are operating it on property that isn't considered part of your residence. I recently went through this with my insurance agent, because I own a piece of rental property that adjoins my residence property. My tractor isn't covered by my homeowners insurance while I am on the rental property, even though I own them both and they are adjoining properties. I asked "what if I combine the two properties under one deed, would the tractor be covered then, and the reply was.... "I would have to get a opinion from the insurance policy issuer.". Insurance varies from state to state, and your state might be different, but in general, most homeowners policies don't vary much from state to state. Check with your agent to see what his opinion is and then ask for it in writing. That way, if there ever is a claim, you will be covered as long as you still have the policy in effect that was in effect on the day that he wrote the letter.
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #12  
Sounds like I should replace my straps with chains and stay in the granny lane. When it come to banks, lawyers or insurance one thing is for sure, "I can't win, can't tie and can't get out of the game."
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #13  
All your problems are reckoned by just throwing more <font color="green"> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ </font> at them..... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #14  
I regularly see posted on this board threads which contain questions about insurance. Invariably someone always posts that their tractor is covered by their homeowners policy only while it is located on their property, not off the premises. Generally speaking this is not true. Assuming you have a standard homeowners policy (Form 3 - this is the standard) purchased from an idependent agency (not State Farm, Allstate, etc.), you can almost be certain it is an HO-3. This policy is written by an organization known as ISO and is industry standard across the vast majority of property companies. The correct interpretation of the 1991 edition of the policy, which again is the vast majority (as opposed to the 2000 edition policy) is as follows:

Section I - Property section of the policy
Section II - Liability section of the policy



"The 1991 homeowners policy states there is both property coverage and liability coverage for:

“vehicles or conveyances not subject to motor vehicle registration which are used to service an “insured’s” residence;”

Clearly a riding mower is used to service the residence, so under the 1991 policy if the mower is stolen there is coverage under Section I of the homeowners policy, subject to the deductible. Likewise, if the insured (or his resident son, daughter, or wife or a residence employee ) were using the mower to cut their yard and negligently ran someone over, there would be protection under Section II of the policy.

It’s important to note that the policy wording simply requires that the mower be “used to service the residence” for coverage to apply. The form does not state that coverage applies only “while being used to service an insured’s residence.” Consider the insured who uses his riding mower (or 4-wheeler or golf cart) to service the premises as well as to go down the street to visit a neighbor every now and then. Regardless of where the claims takes place (even off premises on a public road) or how the mower was being used at the time of the occurrence, there would be coverage under the policy, again both property and liability. As a further example, if the insured owned a 4-wheeler and used it to both service the premises and also for hunting at a hunt camp three counties away there is a good argument for coverage even while the owned 4-wheeler is off premises. The insured could simply argue that the 4-wheeler was used at some time to service the residence and the policy does not require that it be used only to service the residence. While this whole concept may seem to be “splitting hairs” it’s the exact type of analysis that goes on in courts, often resulting in coverage being provided where perhaps none was intended. "


This info is taken directly from the following website, because they are such an excellent resource for many coverage opinions: http://www.faia.com/education/edlibrary/mowers.cfm

The 2000 edition of the policy does alter the language somewhat and creates coverage issues in this scenario. Click on the link above to get the whole story on the change and how it affects the 2000 policy. At this point, very few carriers have adopted the 2000 form, but they are out there. If there wasn't coverage on the 1991 form, why do you suppose it was changed for the 2000 form?

In my opinion, most of you are receiving incorrect guidance from your agents. I hold property/casualty adjusting licenses in several states.
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #15  
Can you comment on State Farm, since you seem to have excluded them from your comments? I'm purchasing a tractor soon. I have State Farm and gave them a call today. I was told by the agent that my Homeowners and Personal Property policy would not cover a tractor, and he's working on a tactor policy quote now (I think he said it was some sort of farm equipment policy). I thought about this more after hanging up. I'm sure my riding mower is covered. What happens if I put a tiller on my mower? What happens if I upgrade to a "garden tractor". It's still a mower. Isn't it covered? At what point is a "tractor" no longer covered? This all seemed like nonsense to me, so I figured it must be covered unless the policy lists some explict exclusion for tractors above a certain HP or $$.

Since I'm pretty sure he's answering the general question of coverage wrong, I'm sure there's no hope he'll be able to answer questons like: What if I something happens to the tractor while on a neighbor's property? What if I roll it into a ditch on the way to the neighbor's? What if I damage something along the road while on the way to the neighbor's (sign, pole, etc). What happens if the tractor is damaged while trailering it?

I've been with this agent for 15 years and have been happy so far. However, this first tractor experience has not gone well. The agent is located in a area where probably very few customers own tractors. Maybe I should switch to an agent closer to my home where there are tons of tractors.
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #16  
<font color="blue">Can you comment on State Farm, since you seem to have excluded them from your comments? I'm purchasing a tractor soon. I have State Farm and gave them a call today. I was told by the agent that my Homeowners and Personal Property policy would not cover a tractor, and he's working on a tactor policy quote now (I think he said it was some sort of farm equipment policy). </font>

My insurance is with State Farm. It was good enough to work with Kubota when financing the BX2200 almost two years ago.

My agent told me my tractors are covered as long as they are used for maintenance of the property ON THE PROPERTY.

If you are going to use your tractor off the property you need something in addition to the homeowner's policy from what I was told.

Your agent may be working on an "inland marine" type policy.

If you are taking your tractors onto other's property and using them there, you probably need more than your home owners policy. I know I do...
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #17  
I have been told that if it has a PTO it is not covered under most peoples insurance policy. We have a few that come thru the dealership and thiers are covered but most they are not. Both KCC and NHCC are going to require insurance for financing either by providing it yourself or buying it thru them. It is very cheap to buy it thru them and with the amount of tractors that are stolen in this area a good idea anyway. $10,000 purchase is around $90 per year only adds about $8 per month to the note.
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #18  
I purchased a B7510 2 weeks ago and financed it through Kubota. My dealer said it needed to be covered on my home owners policy. I called Allstate and added it for around $14/year.
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #19  
The one caveat our insurance provider placed on the tractor was that if you use it to play with fire, they are not covering it. Now I just have to make sure my Dad doesn’t use it to push burning brush piles back together… or to try and keep a runaway grass fire from the tree line… or to stomp out a burning chainsaw… or any of the other strange situations he finds himself in when dealing with fire and a tractor.

My Dad is a ****'uva pilot, but a damned poor farmer. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Insurance needed to finance through Kubota? #20  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I have State Farm and gave them a call today. I was told by the agent that my Homeowners and Personal Property policy would not cover a tractor, and he's working on a tactor policy quote now (I think he said it was some sort of farm equipment policy).)</font>

My State Farm homeowners policy covers my tractors without any additional cost here in Texas, and Kubota financing was fine with it. But, I've noticed in motorcycle insurance (for example) that coverage, rates, and even willingness to write a policy varies tremendously from state to state within the same company, including State Farm.
 

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