Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's?

   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's?
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#11  
Thanks for all the responses, there are some new possibilities to check out. I need to take a better look under my tractor to see if a front mount would work out. If not then backing into the brush is another option. I have a 3pt snow blower so I have spent some time maneuvering in reverse already.

One thing I was concerned about was the "punji stick" problem. Cutting higher on the first pass should work, then driving through the cut afterwards the tires would push the stumps over instead of climbing up on the cut ends.
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #12  
Some where on TBN there was a poster that made a loader mounted RC with a hydraulic motor. I'm not sure if your Kubota has the flow rate to do it but maybe with a PTO pump you could get it going.

It's not going to be cheap.
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #13  
brandoro said:
One thing I was concerned about was the "punji stick" problem. Cutting higher on the first pass should work, then driving through the cut afterwards the tires would push the stumps over instead of climbing up on the cut ends.

I got a few flats and ruined a new tire once due to punji sticks.

Since I started cutting new areas "high" the first time I have gone well over 5 years with no flats except for the new tire I ruined when some fencing help cut a small tree a couple inches above the ground and I ruined a sidewall of a new tire on my Dakota.

Of course they said "we didn't do that" and I asked how they supposed the fresh sawdust happened to be there and they got quiet.

That, and some locust thorns gave me some slow leaks that were a bother before I started using Slime in my tractor tires. Tractor flats on the rear tires are $50 to fix if you take it to them. After I bought $100 dollars worth of punji stick repairs on the rear tractor tires I got pretty religious about mowing a foot high on the first pass, waiting a season and going back at them.

I drive all though my pastures with 3 different pickups and my tractor and except for the fence project problem I have never damaged a tire on cut off brush and trees since starting the "cut high the first time" program.

When I cut a brushy area for the first time, if the brush is too heavy (large in diameter) so that from experience (bad) I know not to drive over it going forward. I raise the mower to cut a foot high and back through it. Works great. On larger trees up to 4-5 inches in diameter I raise the cutter all the way and tilt it up with the hydraulic top link and slowly back up to the tree with engine making revs for PTO speed of 540. After engaging the tree I slowly lower the cutter to within a foot or so of the ground, sometimes backing and pulling back forward a bit while the cutter is chewing up and spitting out the tree.

If you get too aggressive (and sometimes even if you don't) you can kill the engine. Sometimes the action shakes the whole tractor more than just a little bit. I got 6 years out of the first set of blades and only sort of sharpened them just once. They beat things apart as much as cut them. This tends to make the cut ends into what looks like a handful of toothpicks instead of a sharpened pungi stick. Finally a blade failed at the pivot hole and I bought a new set. Still 6 years of abuse is pretty good return on investment.

If brush is small enough in diameter and strength that you can slowly back over it with the cutter over a foot in height and then lower it to a foot, you can cut some pretty dense brush. The only down side for me is getting a sore neck from all the backing. I have learned to turn my body as far as possible and then the neck. For young supple (pre-arthritic) guys it will be no problem.

Way cheaper to use reverse than start an expensive quest/project for a front mounted mower. It would be cheaper to buy a DR type brush mower (not the little string trimmer type on steroids) and hook it to the front of the tractor.

Pat
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's?
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Renting a bigger skid steer mounted brush mower for a day or two to open up as much as I can then buying a 4-5 foot 3pt brush mower to maintain that and maybe open up other small areas is looking like the best alternative. A front mounted mower of any kind looks to be quite complicated (and expensive) to the point of not being worth the time it would take to implement. I prefer to buy rather than rent but this looks like a case where renting is the best way to go. Rent something big and fast for a couple of days rather than beat up my tractor for a week to do the same job. I need to consider the time spent too since I still spend far too much of my time at my regular job. I'm trying to cut back on that but only having partial success so far. On the bright side, the more time I spend at my job the more money I have for toys. No wait, I meant to say tools.:D
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #15  
Well, with your front PTO you could maybe attach a mower like one of these, especially if you have some welding/fabrication skills. I've seen photos of european market CUT's (Iseki) with factory finish mowers on the front too. For some reason, they haven't caught on over here.

Bill
 

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   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #16  
I like the idea of an offset rear mower, so after the first pass, you could see easily what you are about to run over. Plus, you wouldn't be driving over it before you cut it.

I realize it would be expensive, and would not work well on trails.

ron
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #17  
With my R4 tires and my 75" Caroni flail mower set to maximum offset it sticks out about 20 inches to the right, If you were using R1s on a similar tractor you would have more than 24". Not a whole lot of a bite but for a first pass you could get the brush cut down to a manageable height to do a full second pass.

Using the offset I nibble my way into places where I am not sure what I will find. Or where I know that there is a problem waiting for me. Gives me good visibility on what I am cutting.

Vernon
 
   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #18  
I attached carbide faced stump grinder teeth to the undersides of the blades on a Bush Hog Squealer 48" rotary cutter (3/8" thick blades) three years ago. They cut the stumps off flat and less than 1" high. Have not had a puncture since.

The teeth are available on line from several sources. The attached picture is of the "Tomahawk" brand teeth I started with having a welded carbide tip. They are about $14 each. I have since changed to the new "Greenteeth" brand with a replaceable carbide insert. In either case, the teeth last for many (20 or more) hours of cutting. Rocks can break them, but not always. And the new Greenteeth 1/2'' dia inserts are $4 each and can be turned to give three new cutting edges.

The holes are standard to most brands of teeth: 1 1/2" on center, 5/8" bolts Gr 8 at 250 ft #. Drill the holes in the heat treated (35-45 HRC) blades with a carbide straight bit, $25 or so from McMaster Carr. I use a drill press. It would be very difficult (though perhaps possible) to drill them with a portable drill. I added a 1/2" thick A36 steel backing plate on the upper side of the blade to spread the compressive force of the bolts over a larger area of the blade.

I hit one rock big enough to break the blade back at the blade bolt end, but I have never had a problem with the cutting end where the stump grinder teeth are.

The arrangement in the picture works fine up to about 2" diameter trees. I have changed it recently to work better on trees up to about 4" and if anyone is interested I will try to get some pictures this weekend.
 

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   / Is there a front mount flail/brush mower for CUT's? #20  
Farmerford said:
I attached carbide faced stump grinder teeth to the undersides of the blades on a Bush Hog Squealer 48" rotary cutter (3/8" thick blades) three years ago. They cut the stumps off flat and less than 1" high. Have not had a puncture since.

Terrific idea. I was blissfully ignorant of the existence of a COTS source for such accessories as this.

Thanks for posting this!

Pat
 
 

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