Kubota MX5100 Turbo ( opinions needed)

[joulian]

I am trying to determine whats the advantage of a turbocharged tractor ( which I have never owned ) vs naturally aspirated.

I have an L2500 now

I am selling and trying to move up to something I can possibly put a backhoe on ( btw whats the average cost of a backhoe for a 5100?). IS the 5100 capable of handling a backhoe? without breaking it in half.

Anyone got a 5100 that can give some pros and cons.

I have a 16ft gooseneck now any issues with hauling on that trailer ( 10k total axles ). Do i need a bigger trailer etc....

What should I look for if am looking at a 5100 new and used....

 

[bigbull338]

ive got the mx5100 an i wouldnt have any other tractor.ive had mine for a year an havent had an issue with the turbo.but honestly im used to the turbos on the tractors.an yes it will handle a backhoe no probs.that frame is stouter than you think.your gooseneck might be a tad short if it has the backhoe on id go to a 24ft.i seen a used mx5100 2wd the other day for $15,000 it was a 2008 i think an a gear.

 

[joulian]

Whats the advantage to the turbo? I would assume the hydraulics function almst at max without turbo kicking in? Unless ur bushhogging or moving something is it worth the xtra.

 

[bigbull338]

the new gear mx5100s are priced at $19,000 to $26,000 depending on how they are set up.

 

[joulian]

I need 4x4 for my landscaping bizness

 

[bigbull338]

Whats the advantage to the turbo? I would assume the hydraulics function almst at max without turbo kicking in? Unless ur bushhogging or moving something is it worth the xtra.

the turbo is a real lifesaver when your working the tractor.because once it kicks in youd be amazed at the power it has.i have the mx5100 hst 4x4 w/la844 quicktatch loader.an we was pulling the hay trailer with 4 5 by 6 bales an 1 on the loader.an had it in 4wd drive an it pulled great.was backing in on uneven ground an the tractor just pushed the trailer back no prob.

 

[bigbull338]

I need 4x4 for my landscaping bizness

heres how my tractor is speced.its a mx5100 hst 4x4 w/la844 quicktach loader.list price in 2010 was $26,000,an i got it for $24,000.it would help you greatly landscaping.an you can pull a 3pt 6ft tiller with it to till up yards an gardens.

 

[joulian]

So its 51hp plus turbo added X amount. Which might be what 56hp?

 

[bigbull338]

So its 51hp plus turbo added X amount. Which might be what 56hp?

its a 52hp tractor depending on who you talk to.an they say the turbo adds 4hp.

 

[joulian]

Ur replies r a big help! I was actually thinking of not getting kubota bucket on and get the quik attach 2. I want a 4 in 1 bucket. They have em at everythingattchments.com.

 

[IndyIan]

For landscaping work I don't think you'll notice a difference between the MX4700 and MX5100 in terms of HP. My local Kubota dealer didn't seem keen on even ordering a MX4700 in for some reason but only said they have worse resale value? But at 3000hrs or 15 years old I'd rather not buy a turbo motor, all things being equal.
I'd get the HST too for finicky loader work. IMHO you'd be better of with the 4700 and HST than the 5100 in the geared model, but I only landscape at home.

 

[kuboman]

No need to be afraid of a turbo. Very simple and reliable. A few extra minutes of cool down time is the only extra hassle. If you live much above sea level it will be a big benefit as the engine will not be gasping for air. It also changes the torque curve giving more torque at lower RPM's plus you just get more hp from a smaller engine.:thumbsup:

 

[joulian]

No mo gear drive for me. Hydro or shuttle. I swear I can make more $ by not shifting . Plus I think its safer. I got in a situation a month ago where if I had not shifted at the time I did I would have been upside down

 

[TripleR]

Before buying, I looked at all of them. The MX4700 is a good tractor, but it doesn't have the extendable 3PH arms and a couple of other things.

Don't worry about turbos, they have been used for years on trucks and tractors.

I drive an HST and Hydraulic Shuttle Shift and the HST is easier.

 

[Kyle241]

I just recently purchased a MX5100 with LA844 quicktach loader and BH92. The BH adds another $9000-9500 to the price (that is without the hydro thumb). I have been very satisfied with mine so far and the BH is very strong compared to my B20. You mention you are going to use it for your landscaping business, what are you primary jobs? Is the BH #1, then loader, then boxblade, then??? Just wondering because for an additional $5-6k you can get the L45 which is more designed for BH work and is also a commercial grade unit.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Ur replies r a big help! I was actually thinking of not getting kubota bucket on and get the quik attach 2. I want a 4 in 1 bucket. They have em at everythingattchments.com.

A Kubota 4n1 is a nicer bucket IMO. If you are going to get a 4n1, take a look at the one that Kubota offers.

 

[joulian]

We do landscape construction (french drains,pavers,design, stone work, maintenance, some tree work). I have been debating new tractor or new skid steer. I m leaning more to tractor tho.


I ll chek 4n1 @ kubota.

 

[slowzuki]

You already have a mini-excavator then or rent when needed? If doing a lot of drain work the mini-ex will outdig bay far the backhoe.

 

[joulian]

I ll tell you what I have been using lately. A shovel you slip over your fork lift forks. That thing is a life saver. Its great!....

Put tractor in lo and sink shovel about 3-4 inches into dirt and go.

 

[Verticaltrx]

IMO for that type of work you are just spending extra money for the MX5100 vs the MX4700. For loader, backhoe, grading, etc type work you aren't using much HP. I'd just save the money and go for the MX4700. They only thing the 5100 would be better for is if you plan on a lot of PTO work such as running a bush hog, chipper, snow blower, etc.

Also I personally would rather have a naturally aspirated tractor vs a turbocharged one. It is true that turbo failures are very rare, but when they do go it often isn't pretty. The other thing to remember is that many of these tractor are only being turbocharged nowadays to meet emissions requirements. A few years ago they would have either used a larger displacement engine or just re-tuned the current one.