Large fabric building failure(s): Does this make sense to you?

[Diggin It]

She paid for it once. It's the situation she's in. That's what she has to deal with at the present.

Fine, but it's already been wind damaged twice in just a few years and replaced once under warranty. Why do the same thing the same way a third time knowing it will fail again? Something needs to be different. Better fabric, batter lashing/tie downs, maybe even some sort of netting over the whole thing once fabric is back in place. That netting may just be additional ropes criss-crossed over the outside.

 

[NorTracNY]

Fine, but it's already been wind damaged twice in just a few years and replaced once under warranty. Why do the same thing the same way a third time knowing it will fail again? Something needs to be different. Better fabric, batter lashing/tie downs, maybe even some sort of netting over the whole thing once fabric is back in place. That netting may just be additional ropes criss-crossed over the outside.

Correct, but that's up to the company if it was a warrantee issue. If the structure was rated for winds greater than what have been measured in the area, then the company needs to figure out how to make it right. This certainly should never have gone to her insurance. As another posted, what exactly failed. If it was done correctly, the manufacturer needs to cover it. If it wasn't installed to the manufacturers specs, then the installer needs to cover it.

 

[coobie]

Sorry to hear about your problem.Local neighbor/farmer had a structure similar to yours installed about 8 years ago.Needless to say it was nothing but a PIA with issues.It lasted 8-9 years then he went with a metal building.

 

[Diggin It]

I'm going to bump my roof pitch question thread up with a related question if anybody cares to chime in.

 

[3Ts]

How many more times are you going to put something up that has been proven not to be able to withstand the winds in your area?

This is why insurance rates are so high for all of us. People rebuilding things the same way in the same place after a weather related loss. Winds and floods tend to repeat. A loss due to either should be a learning experience and teach us not to rebuild the same way in the same place.

I agree, however, the insurance company I have requires it to be put back the same way it was.

She paid for it once. It's the situation she's in. That's what she has to deal with at the present. It's covered under insurance. I think most of us, once we pay for something, will not just throw it out if there's still monetary value and use in it. There's still recoverable monetary value in that structure, as well as useful space. Once all the blood has been squeezed from that turnip, then it's time to look for something else more durable. Not now.

I agree, however, I have a roll up door that was damaged by hail. It is usable as is, but if I don't replace it, they won't insure it for any future loss. I have to replace it (on their dime), so I've called around to see if anyone can use a slightly dented 14 x 14 door.

 

[CobyRupert]

The warranty was for 10 years, and has a wind rating if 90mph. Neither weather event reached that. Here is their response:

敵ood questions. The warranty unfortunately does not cover any acts of God or weather incidents like wind. The structures are designed to meet minimum 90mph wind but the warranty only covers manufacturers defects.

Ummm straight line winds less than the rating advertised, isn稚 a manufacturing defect? Twice in 8 years! Are my expectations too high here? Am I being unreasonable? Anyone else experience this, and reach an acceptable resolution to this problem?

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Yep, that is a head scratcher.
How can they say it's "rated" for 90mph wind, but not "warranted" for wind?

"It's defective it can't meet its rating (Period!)."

I could understand that if the wind put a 2"x4" board through it causing the failure you couldn't call it a manufacturing defect.

Maybe the questions/answers we need to know is: Where/how did it actually fail?
What does warrantee actually say?
What does "rating" actually say?

 

[Deere Dude]

I'm going to bump my roof pitch question thread up with a related question if anybody cares to chime in.

4/12 is good..

 

[ning]

Question to my favorite TBN geniuses:

Long story short: 2011: Built a 72x300 fabric building that is used as an indoor riding arena. My cover is in 3, 100 sections.

2014: North Texas storm tore the middle cover off. Clearspan made it right.

2019: Storm rips off another cover. This time: they want $20k just to replace 1 cover (not including labor.) Before I bought the building, I was told the cover is approximately 10% of the cost of the building. I paid $110K including shipping, taxes etc. Insurance is covering it, but how many more times is insurance going to cover it?!

The warranty was for 10 years, and has a wind rating if 90mph. Neither weather event reached that. Here is their response:

敵ood questions. The warranty unfortunately does not cover any acts of God or weather incidents like wind. The structures are designed to meet minimum 90mph wind but the warranty only covers manufacturers defects.

Ummm straight line winds less than the rating advertised, isn稚 a manufacturing defect? Twice in 8 years! Are my expectations too high here? Am I being unreasonable? Anyone else experience this, and reach an acceptable resolution to this problem?

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I'd say it's time to make a big stink about this.
Suspect you may need to lawyer up; they need to cover this under warranty and your replacements should be warranted as well.

 

[thekkfan]

I'd say it's time to make a big stink about this.
Suspect you may need to lawyer up; they need to cover this under warranty and your replacements should be warranted as well.

Agree. For those of you saying its in a high wind area- last time I checked 90mph wind in Texas is almost the same as 90mph in NC, PA, or the Pacific Northwest.

The insurance company has access to weather events to know. I had a well pump replaced under HO policy due to lightning. Called the adjuster about it, said he didn't need to come out because he knew of the storm in the area 2 days earlier (this was AFTER I got it replaced, of course). So their insurance company should already have statistical data if winds approached or exceeded the mfr's claims.

I'm personally sick of people selling crap and not honoring warranties. 10yrs is 10yrs, they should have someone onsite supervising the install if in doubt.

How about they divide the purchase price by 10, give her 2/10 of it in a refund (they're at 8yrs old) and come get the piece of crap so she can invest in another structure.

 

[piaffepony]

Sorry to hear about your problem.Local neighbor/farmer had a structure similar to yours installed about 8 years ago.Needless to say it was nothing but a PIA with issues.It lasted 8-9 years then he went with a metal building.

How big was the building?! If I could replace it with a metal building I would! Technically it’s a lease to own. I still have 2 years of payments so I can’t just give it back or really sell it and even begin to recoup my costs..