I'm wondering what kind of discounts off list people have been able to get on Massey Ferguson tractors. I am looking at a New Holland Powerstar 75 and a Massey 4707. I know people who have been able to get about 30% off list from the very reputable local New Holland Dealer. The local Massey dealer that is part of a large chain of dealer (no one I know has worked with) is offering 12% off the current 2023 list price for a 2021 model with 50 demo hours on it.