Massey vs. Kioti

[jarbill]

I've been looking at a M-F 1533 for a couple of weeks now and I like the tractor. The dealer also sells Kioti tractors, but he kind of pooh-poohed the Kioti tractors in favor of M-F. I've seen several of the other posts about Kioti, and they seem to be well-liked by their owners. I haven't seen too many different problems that have been talked about. Does anybody have any input about cost comparisons, FEL capabilities, parts availability, service, etc? Just anything would be helpful. I just want to get the most tractor for the buck for what I need to do. I like the FEL specs on the Massey 1533, but I don't really know anything about the Kioti's.

Jerry in Texas

 

[JerryG]

Hello Jerry and welcome to TBN.
The Massey will more than likely be a little more expensive. The Massey parts are not a problem. Most can be had in a day two if you are in a hurry. The 1533 is a very well thought out machine and has been very dependable for its owners.
If you will check at the top, I sent you a private message.

 

[swampvol]

I've been looking at a M-F 1533 for a couple of weeks now and I like the tractor. The dealer also sells Kioti tractors, but he kind of pooh-poohed the Kioti tractors in favor of M-F. I've seen several of the other posts about Kioti, and they seem to be well-liked by their owners. I haven't seen too many different problems that have been talked about. Does anybody have any input about cost comparisons, FEL capabilities, parts availability, service, etc? Just anything would be helpful. I just want to get the most tractor for the buck for what I need to do. I like the FEL specs on the Massey 1533, but I don't really know anything about the Kioti's.

Jerry in Texas

The main reason I went with kubota over kioti was dealer support. I have 3 kubota dealers in the area, and only one (new) kioti dealer.
I would be careful if this dealer "poo-poohed the kioti..."
It might be that he's considering dropping them.

Other than that the kioti seems like a solid, well designed tractor.

 

[ToadHill]

I wonder which has a larger margin of profit for him, I'll bet its the Massey.

 

[rtdiggr]

I have a 1433v MF that i am very happy with it.

Shane

 

[chh]

I have a 1433V with a FEL. Has been a great tractor. MF parts are easy to get(not that I ever need many) and dealer support has been great for me. I have a Kioti dealer closer but is not really much cheaper than MF and changes brands he deals in every time the wind changes, so I didn't have much confidence in him being there when I needed something.
Of course I also have a MF 4243 and MF 596 so I might be a little biased.

 

[IXLR8]

I am in the process of buying a Kioti, dealer network is a concern. Older tractors had some issues with the FEL torque tube cracking. The loader has been redesigned and strengthening kits have been provided for the older loader arms. Kioti was not as responsive as the owners would have liked with this issue. I am going with the Kioti for ergonomic issues, they just fit me better. I fit the JD's as well, but that green paint is too expensive for me. My local dealer is not so good, but there are lots of good dealers that will help at a moments notice with parts or advice, several on Sunday's as well!! They are a good solid tractor, have a good warranty. I am fairly good with a wrench if I need to work on the tractor, which is why local dealer is not terribly important to me. If you are not mechanically inclined and need the dealer to do most of the work on the machine... I would go with the better dealer rather than saving a few dollars.

 

[davitk]

I would agree that the Kioti is likely a very good machine but dealer stability is questionable, at least near me. Nearest was 2 hours, his inventory was old, and he kept repeating that the 'Koreans' don't run a company like the rest of the world, namely no factory rep and having to call Kioti in Korea to answer any questions. Sounded like he was disenchanted and on his way out. Again, likely a good machine, with an unbeatable price, but watch the dealer.

 

[MAHINDRA OF OHIO]

We looked to take on Kioti before M/F. I did not like the support from Kioti. They did not have a good long term plan for there dealers. They keep saying we made Kubota in the 70's and some of are tractors use Kubota and John Deere engines.
If you trade/sell a M/F-Agco, John Deere, Kubota and CNH-ford you will do good. If you trade/sell anything else you will not be happy with the out come

 

[BTI]

A John Deere engine...........
Thats a new one.
Sounds more like the old Scorpion/Millenium
They used Kubota and JD engines.
Kioti has never had ANY association with JD.

BTI