my wife and I purchased 35 acres out in the country to get away from the hustle and bustle and 1/2 acre lots this past summer, we intended to make this our homeplace for a long time, we were looking for complete privacy on the dead end dirt road where we bought, where the only neighbors would only be seen or heard when we went to see them or called them on the phone, well wouldn't you know, someone busted the plans in 2 weeks w/ a mobile home that was set up only 20 feet from the back of my property line in clear view of the location we had planned for our house, not only that they pushed down trees on my land that my fence was attached to and tore that up when we have cows in the pasture, they threw around 25 cinder blocks over the fence when they were done placing the home onto my land, they also threw cutoff water pipes, roofing materials, and all sorts of other construction materials over the fence into my woods, did they really think we wouldn't notice the trash, and why must people push the minimum buffer zone literally to the limits like this, guess they were just trying to be neighborly in their opinion, does anyone have a recommendation on trees to plant, to block the view and noise from what I feel will be a wonderful neighbor to have, I have looked into the Thuja Green Giant as a permanent wall to block my view and theirs, sunlight included to the back of their home, but does anyone know how long these trees will live, and how much shade can they tolerate, thanks a lot for any help and other recommendations
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Freds
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Their littering shows a complete command of stupidity and rudeness. That said, maybe they had the same idea as you, they just beat you to the punch. They may have placed their trailer (temp or permanent... it's hard to tell) at the very back of their property thinking that it would be their private spot.
I would take care of the garbage problem with them, letting them know that although your land may look abandoned, it isn't, and rethink my own home location to a different spot.
I used to have a website or paperwork on the subject, but when I was looking into sound barriers/absorption qualities of various materials I saw where trees have a very poor rating, if any. Think about it. You can hear a rustle of leaves or a twig snap when you're hunting. Wood in general is a very poor choice for blocking sound waves.
Good luck finding your solutions.
I would take care of the garbage problem with them, letting them know that although your land may look abandoned, it isn't, and rethink my own home location to a different spot.
I used to have a website or paperwork on the subject, but when I was looking into sound barriers/absorption qualities of various materials I saw where trees have a very poor rating, if any. Think about it. You can hear a rustle of leaves or a twig snap when you're hunting. Wood in general is a very poor choice for blocking sound waves.
Good luck finding your solutions.
"That said, maybe they had the same idea as you, they just beat you to the punch. They may have placed their trailer (temp or permanent... it's hard to tell) at the very back of their property thinking that it would be their private spot." I could see where this may have been implied by the statement that I was going to place my house in this area. The fact is that the location of our house was a minumum of close to 125 yards from the back of the property, w/ about 30 yards of pasture to the back and the rest is all hardwoods, these hardwoods will probably block the view during the summer, but during the winter, it is broad as daylight sitting broadside to what would be the back of my home which was to very open, the sad fact is that of this 35 acres, this is the only spot that had the privacy and the makeup of property that was suitable for the location of the home, we will probably end up selling and moving further out, pay less per acre, get more land, and learn from this experience to have more privacy,
on the other comment, that idea of the poison ivy is wonderful, my idea was to continue cleaning up the trash from and old chicken house that was on the land, and place it at the back of the property, and then plant the trees in front of these on my side, so they could have the view, bold statement, but I would end up hauling the trash off anyways, any more hints from people w/ this experience.
on the other comment, that idea of the poison ivy is wonderful, my idea was to continue cleaning up the trash from and old chicken house that was on the land, and place it at the back of the property, and then plant the trees in front of these on my side, so they could have the view, bold statement, but I would end up hauling the trash off anyways, any more hints from people w/ this experience.
Kyle_in_Tex
Super Star Member
try planting red tip photenias... plant at least 10 feet from the fenceline so you can keep the fenceline maintained. Very drought tolerant, stay green year round.
BTW, I live in a manufactured home and can't imagine throwing trash on my neighbors land. I'm guessing the setup team might have thrown the trash over???
BTW, I live in a manufactured home and can't imagine throwing trash on my neighbors land. I'm guessing the setup team might have thrown the trash over???
Farmwithjunk
Super Member
Way back yonder, in my childhood, there was a teacher that told me once that EVERY problem in the world was the direct result of someones ignorance. That didn't soak in to an 8-year-olds mind. In recent years, I've come to realize she might have been spot-on with that diagnosis.
In a nut shell, they might not know any better. In which case, you have a couple directions you can go. Throw a fit, get a border war started, and may the best man win. OR. Try to educate them a little at a time, until they grasp the concept that you're not running a landfill for their benifit.
From my experience, people who don't know any better than to disregard the basics of being a good neighbor aren't likely to be quick learners, or to even understand your methods at first.
I'd start by asking them to help you "clean up the mess someone made while working on their property". Don't come straight out and accuse them of trashing your place. Let them make that connection for themselves.
And if that doesn't start the ball rolling, may I suggest razor wire.
In a nut shell, they might not know any better. In which case, you have a couple directions you can go. Throw a fit, get a border war started, and may the best man win. OR. Try to educate them a little at a time, until they grasp the concept that you're not running a landfill for their benifit.
From my experience, people who don't know any better than to disregard the basics of being a good neighbor aren't likely to be quick learners, or to even understand your methods at first.
I'd start by asking them to help you "clean up the mess someone made while working on their property". Don't come straight out and accuse them of trashing your place. Let them make that connection for themselves.
And if that doesn't start the ball rolling, may I suggest razor wire.
SnowRidge
Elite Member
You might look into Leyland Cypress. They grow fast and should be OK in your area. Like someone said, plant far enough away from the property line so that you can maintain the fence.
The Thuja Green Giant is very close to the Leland Cypress in many ways, the difference is that the GG doesn't have as many problems w/ insects and they are a little more hardy, they also don't require as much of the maintenance pruning wise from the research I have done,
Kyle, the red tip photenias I looked up and it seems they require more sunlight than what I think they will get in this location???, I also didn't mean to imply any negative comments towards those living in manufactured homes, many of my family members either grew up in or currently live in one, my wife lived in one for much of her life, and her parents still do, I was just implying how quickly this was done, and what a shock it was to see it there in a span of 2 weeks, farmw/junk, I will take your advice to heart, and do realize that cooler heads always prevail, I have been a hothead my entire life though and sometimes it can stand in the way, I am almost positive it is the people doing the setup that have done this, but I feel it is the responsibility of the landowner/homeowners to keep an eye on all things of this nature to make sure they don't happen, I am making every attempt to do this cordially, but someone always feels like their toes are being stepped on when I get done discussing things (not a good thing I know) thanks for all of the advice guys
Kyle, the red tip photenias I looked up and it seems they require more sunlight than what I think they will get in this location???, I also didn't mean to imply any negative comments towards those living in manufactured homes, many of my family members either grew up in or currently live in one, my wife lived in one for much of her life, and her parents still do, I was just implying how quickly this was done, and what a shock it was to see it there in a span of 2 weeks, farmw/junk, I will take your advice to heart, and do realize that cooler heads always prevail, I have been a hothead my entire life though and sometimes it can stand in the way, I am almost positive it is the people doing the setup that have done this, but I feel it is the responsibility of the landowner/homeowners to keep an eye on all things of this nature to make sure they don't happen, I am making every attempt to do this cordially, but someone always feels like their toes are being stepped on when I get done discussing things (not a good thing I know) thanks for all of the advice guys
EddieWalker
Epic Contributor
Since you haven't built yet and are already planning on selling and moving to another location, I don't think I'd waste my time with them. People who have so little disregard for the land in general will just continue to make a mess and lower your land values.
There is just something about some people that don't see a mess while walking right through it. Call it blind, or just ignorant, either way, you're fighting a battle that can't be won.
A year from now it will just be worse, and every year they will continue to bring home more garbage that will continue to pile up.
If they have kids, I'd expect them to have no regard to property lines. In fact, when their place is all trashed and destroyed, they will likely head over to your area since you'll be keeping it nice. Either to play or kill animals on you land.
The writing is on the wall. They have shown you what type of people they are and it's foolish to hope for better out of them. Reasoning and trying to work together usually just prolongs things until you either give up or it turns into war.
Walk away whiel it's easy. Clean up the mess, make everything pretty and get it on the market as soon as you can.
Eddie
There is just something about some people that don't see a mess while walking right through it. Call it blind, or just ignorant, either way, you're fighting a battle that can't be won.
A year from now it will just be worse, and every year they will continue to bring home more garbage that will continue to pile up.
If they have kids, I'd expect them to have no regard to property lines. In fact, when their place is all trashed and destroyed, they will likely head over to your area since you'll be keeping it nice. Either to play or kill animals on you land.
The writing is on the wall. They have shown you what type of people they are and it's foolish to hope for better out of them. Reasoning and trying to work together usually just prolongs things until you either give up or it turns into war.
Walk away whiel it's easy. Clean up the mess, make everything pretty and get it on the market as soon as you can.
Eddie
