My Industrial Cabin Build

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We broke ground on the homesite this weekend.
As many of you know, I have been building an orchard in the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. 55 acres purchased in last summer 2015. We had 20-25 acres logged, leaving us with an inordinate amount of slash and debris. We have 3 acres of Apple trees in the ground right now, with the eventual goal of opening a Cidery and producing craft hard cider.
We built 1/2 miles of road and a bridge to reach the home site. and for the last couple months, I have been staying onsite on the weekends in a camper that we put where we will be building our barn/shop.
I have had the drainfield marked, and analyzed (I think that is the correct word. We dug 5 large holes and they studies the rock to make sure it would work. ) I have had the electric company come out and do a walk thru with me for the power lines to be brought in. I received the contract with he electric company on Friday and gave them a quick read thru Friday night.
I have had the contractor who will put in my foundation come up and tell me what he needs me to do to prepare the site for him to come in and do the footings and foundation.
And most importantly, My home plans were drawn up by an architect friend who designs fantastic homes and buildings and the plans were submitted to the county for approval and building permits. Last weekend it was too wet to do much work on the home site, so we burned a couple piles of slash instead.

This weekend we dug up and moved all the stumps that were in the drainfield. And started digging up the stumps in the homesite.

Before and after on the homesite

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Looking down toward the drainfield. Lots of stump piles to deal with.
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Just to give a little teaser on the house design. This is one of the sketch pictures from over a year ago....some changes have been made. There will be no garage underneath. And my wife said no way on the color.
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As a person that fixes houses for a living, I sure wouldn't have a roof line like that if I could avoid it. No matter what material you use, that upper wall at the ridgeline is going to require maintenance of some kind.

I have three jobs coming up this year to remove pergola porches and build a solid roof type porch. They look nice, but do a poor job of providing shade and they do nothing to keep out the rain.

I'm in the process of converting my attached work shop into a garage for my wife. Eventually I'll build a separate building for my workshop, but the need is there for her to be able to pull in and to be able to unload groceries in there. Why don't you want a garage?
 
  
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It will have an overhang. That was one of the first changes. Mostly to keep the summer time sun out.
 
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As a person that fixes houses for a living, I sure wouldn't have a roof line like that if I could avoid it. No matter what material you use, that upper wall at the ridgeline is going to require maintenance of some kind.

I have three jobs coming up this year to remove pergola porches and build a solid roof type porch. They look nice, but do a poor job of providing shade and they do nothing to keep out the rain.

I'm in the process of converting my attached work shop into a garage for my wife. Eventually I'll build a separate building for my workshop, but the need is there for her to be able to pull in and to be able to unload groceries in there. Why don't you want a garage?

We've got what I think you're calling a pergola porch, over part of our deck. Wife trained vines to come up and cover it; it keeps the sun out of the part of the house next to it, and it's very pleasant under it during the summer, while letting small amounts of light through still and not feeling line a full roof (which it obviously isn't). It's perfect for most of spring through fall around here, and I don't care about the rest of the time.
 
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I really like those pergolas with the vines all over them, especially when they are in bloom!! But it should be detached from the house so the vines cannot grow into parts of the house, under the shingles or behind anything.
 
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We broke ground on the homesite this weekend.
As many of you know, I have been building an orchard in the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. 55 acres purchased in last summer 2015. We had 20-25 acres logged, leaving us with an inordinate amount of slash and debris. We have 3 acres of Apple trees in the ground right now, with the eventual goal of opening a Cidery and producing craft hard cider.
We built 1/2 miles of road and a bridge to reach the home site. and for the last couple months, I have been staying onsite on the weekends in a camper that we put where we will be building our barn/shop.
I have had the djainfield marked, and analyzed (I think that is the correct word. We dug 5 large holes and they studies the rock to make sure it would work. ) I have had the electric company come out and do a walk thru with me for the power lines to be brought in. I received the contract with he electric company on Friday and gave them a quick read thru Friday night.
I have had the contractor who will put in my foundation come up and tell me what he needs me to do to prepare the site for him to come in and do the footings and foundation.
And most importantly, My home plans were drawn up by an architect friend who designs fantastic homes and buildings and the plans were submitted to the county for approval and building permits. Last weekend it was too wet to do much work on the home site, so we burned a couple piles of slash instead.

This weekend we dug up and moved all the stumps that were in the djainfield. And started digging up the stumps in the homesite.

Before and after on the homesite

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Looking down toward the djainfield. Lots of stump piles to deal with.
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Did you mean "drainfield"? (aka leach field)
"Googling" djainfield it seems there are a lot of people who have written djainfield, so is it a new type of drainfield?
 
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Did you mean "drainfield"? (aka leach field) "Googling" djainfield it seems there are a lot of people who have written djainfield, so is it a new type of drainfield?

Well put newbury. That term has me confused too.
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Did you mean "drainfield"? (aka leach field) "Googling" djainfield it seems there are a lot of people who have written djainfield, so is it a new type of drainfield?

Well put newbury. That term has me confused too.
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Not sure how I got that misspelling. I will correct it. Thanks.
 
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I agree w Eddie about that small bit of siding above the near roof. Esp if it's on the sunny side - that siding won't last long. Even fiber-cement will fade its paint fast w reflected heat and light off the lower roof. Sketchup is cool, though, no?
Good for you getting the stumps good and gone.
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Metal siding. Probably a tan or taupe. I am sure she would like white siding but I think it would require cleaning to keep from looking dirty. The roof will be metal. Probably a copper. Or carbon color. We are trying to create a space that is comfortable but very efficient.
 
  
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Not just an effort toward energy efficiency but efficiency of movement and effort. Easier to keep clean and organized.
 
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Metal siding. Probably a tan or taupe. I am sure she would like white siding but I think it would require cleaning to keep from looking dirty. The roof will be metal. Probably a copper. Or carbon color. We are trying to create a space that is comfortable but very efficient.

You haven't priced copper roofing, have you? I knew it would be expensive but I asked a local metal roofing place (well known) for a ballpark quote for Steel standing seam and then Copper standing seam to get a feel. This was on an earlier design of my house which was more complex than we ended up with, but they came back with ~30k for steel and close to 100k for copper. WOW :eek: Just be forewarned...
 
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We broke ground on the homesite this weekend.
As many of you know, I have been building an orchard in the Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia. 55 acres purchased in last summer 2015. We had 20-25 acres logged, leaving us with an inordinate amount of slash and debris. We have 3 acres of Apple trees in the ground right now, with the eventual goal of opening a Cidery and producing craft hard cider.
We built 1/2 miles of road and a bridge to reach the home site. and for the last couple months, I have been staying onsite on the weekends in a camper that we put where we will be building our barn/shop.
I have had the drainfield marked, and analyzed (I think that is the correct word. We dug 5 large holes and they studies the rock to make sure it would work. ) I have had the electric company come out and do a walk thru with me for the power lines to be brought in. I received the contract with he electric company on Friday and gave them a quick read thru Friday night.
I have had the contractor who will put in my foundation come up and tell me what he needs me to do to prepare the site for him to come in and do the footings and foundation.
And most importantly, My home plans were drawn up by an architect friend who designs fantastic homes and buildings and the plans were submitted to the county for approval and building permits. Last weekend it was too wet to do much work on the home site, so we burned a couple piles of slash instead.

This weekend we dug up and moved all the stumps that were in the drainfield. And started digging up the stumps in the homesite.

Before and after on the homesite

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Looking down toward the drainfield. Lots of stump piles to deal with.
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Congratulations on your progress....

I don't know what its like around you, but around here, once they determine where the drain field is going, they fence it off and it can't be disturbed. If anyone digs over the site, its null and void and you can't put a field in. Hopefully that's not the case for you. Good luck.
 
  
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You haven't priced copper roofing, have you? I knew it would be expensive but I asked a local metal roofing place (well known) for a ballpark quote for Steel standing seam and then Copper standing seam to get a feel. This was on an earlier design of my house which was more complex than we ended up with, but they came back with ~30k for steel and close to 100k for copper. WOW :eek: Just be forewarned...
Steel roofing....copper in color. Or Graphite.
 
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Is it me, or is the sky really blue there. Nice project.
 
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What about water? Are you digging a well?
My builder told me the first thing to do was dig the well, just in case the best well location was where we initially wanted to build the house. Maybe water is not an issue there though, since all areas are different.
 
  
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Is it me, or is the sky really blue there. Nice project.

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There are some amazing views from the homesite. This is from the deck I built on our camper, which is situated about 60-70 yds from the homesite, and where the barn will eventually sit.
 
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All that glass and flat side on the south side.... you're gonna roast in summer. Plan out some overhangs that allow sun in during winter, but shade it out in summer.
 
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You haven't priced copper roofing, have you? I knew it would be expensive but I asked a local metal roofing place (well known) for a ballpark quote for Steel standing seam and then Copper standing seam to get a feel. This was on an earlier design of my house which was more complex than we ended up with, but they came back with ~30k for steel and close to 100k for copper. WOW :eek: Just be forewarned...

my wife badly wanted a standing seam metal roof, but not badly enough to pay the $30K upcharge over shingles. i have a barn and a shed with metal roofing attached by through roof gasketed screws but there is no way i would use that on a dwelling. and so we're stuck with shingles :(
 
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my wife badly wanted a standing seam metal roof, but not badly enough to pay the $30 upcharge over shingles. i have a barn and a shed with metal roofing attached by through roof gasketed screws but there is no way i would use that on a dwelling. and so we're stuck with shingles :(

I needed to re-roof my house a few years ago. I had roofed it myself twice and swore I would not use fiberglass or asphalt again!!!
We wanted a more traditional look than a standing seam roof so I had to hunt around awhile. Finally I found a company that produces a metal shingle that looks like slate. Cost was about $230 a square for the "Enhanced Slate" look, which is multi-toned finish. The biggest advantages was not having to strip the existing asphalt roof and the lighter weight. Not having to lug 80-90# bundles of shingles was real attractive especially with all the roof area. The metal weighted around 35# a box, with 2 boxes per square. It took a little longer to screw in place but not having to strip the roof and worry about being exposed to the weather made up for that. Flashing the dormers, sidewalls, valleys and chimney took a little more thought, where special flashings were required.

All said and done the wife and I are really happy with it!

Here's the link to the website... Steel Roofs | Arrowline Roofing | Steel Shingles | EDCO Metal Roofing

The only pictures i could fine on my laptop of the main house...

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There are some amazing views from the homesite. This is from the deck I built on our camper, which is situated about 60-70 yds from the homesite, and where the barn will eventually sit.

That's a beautiful site!
I followed your post of the concrete bag bridge and it's nice to see this as a followup.
 
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my wife badly wanted a standing seam metal roof, but not badly enough to pay the $30 upcharge over shingles. i have a barn and a shed with metal roofing attached by through roof gasketed screws but there is no way i would use that on a dwelling. and so we're stuck with shingles :(

I also don't want through roof fastened screws on a dwelling. Have you or anyone else here looked into a hidden fastener metal roof system? Like the Pro-Snap steel from Menards that is only 28 gauge, and not like a formed on site standing metal seam.
 
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We were delayed, waiting on building permit to be approved. It took 4 months to get approval, so just last month, I was able to really start clearing the homesite. We have our footings in place, and blockwork was supposed to start last yesterday.
Here is a drone shot from this past weekend.
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I will try to update this project on a weekly basis. Keeping up with pictures is my weak point, since I get busy and forget to stop and document. Lately, my wife has started reminding me.
 

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Congratulations on your permit. Looks like you are going to have an amazing view!!!!
 
  
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All the corners have been done. Since there is nothing for me to do for at least a week I have been focusing my energy elsewhere. We haven't had a drop of rain in weeks so I will be trucking water up to my trees tomorrow. I figure if I make 4 trips it should provide enough water to sustain the young trees. I have also been working on my shed. There is always something to do.
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I'm not familiar with what you are doing. Is the foundation pier and beam, but raised extra high? Is this for a better view? I also haven't seen the corners done first, but I can see the advantage to it.
 
  
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Our foundation is radiant heat slab. I cleared the build site and put a bit of a crown on it. My cement guy said no problem and they put in the footings. It works for me because I want water to shed away from it as good as possible. The block guy did the corners first. I am doing the plumbing and letting them handle the cement and block work. I've seen their work at a friends vineyard and it is quite impressive. And I am very pleased to have them working on this project.
 
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I needed to re-roof my house a few years ago. I had roofed it myself twice and swore I would not use fiberglass or asphalt again!!!
We wanted a more traditional look than a standing seam roof so I had to hunt around awhile. Finally I found a company that produces a metal shingle that looks like slate. Cost was about $230 a square for the "Enhanced Slate" look, which is multi-toned finish. The biggest advantages was not having to strip the existing asphalt roof and the lighter weight. Not having to lug 80-90# bundles of shingles was real attractive especially with all the roof area. The metal weighted around 35# a box, with 2 boxes per square. It took a little longer to screw in place but not having to strip the roof and worry about being exposed to the weather made up for that. Flashing the dormers, sidewalls, valleys and chimney took a little more thought, where special flashings were required.

All said and done the wife and I are really happy with it!

Here's the link to the website... Steel Roofs | Arrowline Roofing | Steel Shingles | EDCO Metal Roofing

The only pictures i could fine on my laptop of the main house...

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Nice looking roof. Are you installing it with felt paper under each individual row of shingles? It looks that way from the pics. Just curious.
 
  
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The block work is complete. like the way it turned out. They will be filling the block with cement tomorrow, and setting my j-hooks for the sill plates. My cement guy will be removing some more dirt in part of it (I have already loosened it up with the excavator for him to remove.)Then we start working on the rough plumbing and moving gravel in. When that is complete we do the insulation.
 

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Good God that's a lot of work. Wouldn't it be easier to make forms and pour concrete for the footer? Why go cinder block?
 

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There is something beautiful about a perfectly straight line of blocks!!!!

Are you going to build piers too?
 

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Good God that's a lot of work. Wouldn't it be easier to make forms and pour concrete for the footer? Why go cinder block?

Looks excellent, but I was thinking the same thing.
 

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Nice looking roof. Are you installing it with felt paper under each individual row of shingles? It looks that way from the pics. Just curious.

YES...but not for each individual row of shingles. Standard 4' rolls, I was just rolling out the paper as I went up. It was good for a few rows. Just made it easier to do it that way. They recommend going over an existing asphalt roof. You just have to use 40# felt paper to provide a clean smooth surface for the metal shingles.
 
  
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The footings were dug because they wanted to get down to where the stone begins. The block is the outer wall of the foundation and also is the base that our SIPS walls will sit on.
 

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look at all the Virginia pine...in all places Virginia! hahaha. Yall can have that stuff
 
  
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I agree it looks beautiful but that must have taken forever.

Block work took about 3 days and another day to fill. I can't say it has been particularly cheap but I found it to be reasonable block was specified by my architect. Perhaps we could have done poured walls. I'll have to investigate that for next time ( the barn or cidery)
 
  
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look at all the Virginia pine...in all places Virginia! hahaha. Yall can have that stuff

The mountain is also rich in oak, poplar, maple, walnut, sycamore and birch. A fair amount of white pine was harvested as well. I love it.
 
  
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Our electric service lines have been dug in and run to a location about 70 yds from the house. They did a very nice job but it tore the road up pretty good. The reason I only put #3 rock down was because I knew a lot of large trucks would be making the trip up and down and pounding it into the road and that would give us a solid road base to smooth out and then cover with crusher run. I'm glad I went that route because I'd be upset if I had done the final topcoat only to have it rutted up and covered with dirt. I have to say I am very happy to have the service box up here. Image1507998676.274952.jpg
 
  
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The walls were filled and the anchor screws were set. 102 of them. That's a lot of holes to drill for the sill plates. I began laying out the plumbing for waste connections and ended up spending all of today changing the layout of the bathroom on the fly. I needed more room space for my boiler room. Wife and I came up with a layout that she likes and will give us the space we need. It requires me to move one three foot wall and reposition some drains.
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