Sickle Bar mystery model for International 7 ft sickle mower

   / mystery model for International 7 ft sickle mower #1  

shucker

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Ortonville, MI
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Ford NAA, JD 400
I would like to buy a manual for this mower, but I haven't been able to identify the model. It's a very recent purchase.

3 photos should be appearing here..

2014-07-16 06.02.43.jpg2014-07-16 06.03.56.jpg2014-07-16 06.05.26.jpg

I see some cast part numbers.
451490R3
IH

451491-R (updated 7/16, there was another 1 in the P/N)

The wooden pitman arm was marked 9298 measuring about 34 inches long, but that appears to be for a Ford. I've cracked this arm, bought a universal from TSC and cut/drilled it to match the 9298 (since it was running and cutting).

Looking at WSS's site, I see:
OEM # Brand Description SS Number Price
Universal Pitman Wood Universal 37-7/16" 456-010 $15.27
M 1583 C-IH Wood 33-5/8", #9, 10, Big 6 456-011 $23.56
M 22184 C-IH Wood 35-11/16", #10, 16, 21, 24, 28 456-012 $21.29
M 32119 C-IH Wood 31-3/4", #12, 25, 27, 31 456-013 $21.44

so I'm thinking the previous owner replaced the original with the 33 15/16 Ford part.

In the middle picture, why does the rear Pitman arm have that nub? I don't see any function for it.

Now that I've replaced the pitman, the clamping action of the front/rear metal pitman strap onto the steel ball of the knifehead is poor. I've 3/16" or so of play where it clamps on the steel ball joint. Is this too much play? By hand, I can rotate the drive system and the resulting the motion looks right. Cutters registering left and right so it would make a good cut. If I engage the PTO, within 5 seconds, the pitman straps jump off the knifehead. I feel that 3/16" must be too much play. I could shave the shaft, or, bend the steel straps. Bit nervous to cold work such old steel. Normal to adjust this way? I have access to a small forge, and could do some minor blacksmithing adjustments.

Hence, if I knew the model number, I'd buy a manual and learn how to set it up.
Looks like there was a place for a wheel in the back, but in look through pictures on the internet, I'm not seeing any models that have a bracket like this. At this point, I'm convinced the 3pt frame is a well made home made angle iron rig.

From the nearly matching pitman shaft length, I'm guessing it's a 9, 10 or Big 6.

Can someone offer potential model numbers it Could be, as well as model numbers it can't be?

Scott

Note to others: this thread contains more information on this quest.
 
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   / mystery model for International 7 ft sickle mower #2  
Hi, I have a similar IH sickle bar mover. It looks like your spring-loaded lock handle that clamps the pitman arm to the ball on the sickle blades is on backward. The handle should be facing back toward the pitman arm, not the way it is shown in the middle photo.
I'm looking for the IH model number, also.

Basa
 
 

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