New garage and home build

[Pixguy]

The wife and I are building a new ranch home as well as my detached 34X42 garage.

I've posted the latest garage plans and wanted some input before I give the OK to proceed.

The rear man door will move closer to large overhead door so I can use that corner.
The windows on the side will be smaller and higher.
All the siding on front will be shingles with the side clapboard. I want to add a window in the front gable.

Other suggestions?

 

[Zebrafive]

1) What type of truss do you have in mind to allow that tall of rear door??? It does not look doable.
2) Do you really need two man/walk doors? I would eliminate the rear one.
3) Depending on your plans for stall 3, you might want the side door further back, so you can walk across the front of any vehicle parked there. OR further forward, all the way to front corner, so you can walk behind anything parked there (just leave room to pull forward at least 3')

 

[buckeyefarmer]

What zebrafive said...

Need more space between doors and beside doors.

 

[tjkubota93]

The wife and I are building a new ranch home as well as my detached 34X42 garage.

I've posted the latest garage plans and wanted some input before I give the OK to proceed.

The rear man door will move closer to large overhead door so I can use that corner.
The windows on the side will be smaller and higher.
All the siding on front will be shingles with the side clapboard. I want to add a window in the front gable.

Other suggestions?

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Where did you get those plans?

I like your sig.

Also zebra5 is right, I dont think the door can go that high. Even with a scissor truss.

 

[Pixguy]

The plans are being drawn by the builders designer/planner. I'm not sure if she knows if trusses can work but I'm sure the lumberyard orders and makes changes if necessary. They build about 6 homes per yer of all types so it appears they know their stuff.

The grage is back form the house so the front man door is for daily entrance. I di wonder about putting that close to the front so I can enter in front of vehicle.

The large rear door is for our motorhome and I just didn't want that large door in front where it looks commercial and then I'd be limited on width if I want 3 doors. So the rear man door is for rear entrance if nature calls or if I want to clean off motorhome or blow out lines, etc.

 

[aczlan]

1) What type of truss do you have in mind to allow that tall of rear door??? It does not look doable.

A scissor truss would allow a door like that, they are a little more than regular truss but in a case like this, could be worthwhile.

Aaron Z

 

[Pixguy]

Here's the roof cut away. I assume they are trusses but I'm no builder.

 

[Pixguy]

Where did you get those plans?

I like your sig.

Also zebra5 is right, I dont think the door can go that high. Even with a scissor truss.

Thanks for the siggy comment. We talk of such things in the "Friendly" Politics section, but not here.

 

[EddieWalker]

Are you going to park three cars in those three garage doors? 9ft doors are super cheap, ten foot doors jump in price. I've never heard of or seen a 9ft 6inch door, so that must mean they are being custom built. To me, that's just a waste of money.

There really is no room to open a door once you have three cars in there.

How wide is that big door on the other side? Ten foot is what I would consider the minimum, and that can be really tight if you want to get a trailer in there or an RV, or anything with big mirrors on the side of it. Mine is ten foot wide and my next one will be 12 foot wide.

Where will you store stuff? Will there be a work bench? Shelves should be two feet deep to hold anything at all. Same thing with a work bench. I wouldn't wan anything smaller. You have two long walls that would make great storage, but you only have a foot from the wall to the three doors. That really need to be four feet so you can have storage and park a car.

Do you have a porch over your walk through doors? They will rot on you if not protected. Every walk through door should have a some sort of roof over it to keep the rain from getting into the seals and rotting out the frame. This starts at the bottom and works its way up. It starts the day you install it and it just depends on how much weather you get as to how fast the rot proceeds.

I really, strongly suggest having a sink inside that you can wash things. Mine is close to the walk in door, and it's used all the time!!!!!

To be truly helpful, we need to know what you are going to use this building for, and what you plan on putting in there. In my opinion, seeing those three doors, I think that you are building it too small.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

You can buy clopay doors in 2" increments.
A scissor truss has a lower cord usually half of the upper, from the pic, the lower would be at the top of the door, so that door is too high.
My TT camper won't fit in my 10' tall door.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

And what eddie said about mandoor frame rotting is true, mine has rotted at less than 10 yrs.

 

[Pixguy]

First. My plan is to store our RV, F150 truck, small tractor, snowmobile trailer, have a workshop and some storage such as implements. The first thing to come our would be the sled trailer if I run short of room.

Are you going to park three cars in those three garage doors? 9ft doors are super cheap, ten foot doors jump in price. I've never heard of or seen a 9ft 6inch door, so that must mean they are being custom built. To me, that's just a waste of money.

That must be the ro Eddie cuz I'm sure the doors are 9'w

There really is no room to open a door once you have three cars in there.

I will look at that.

How wide is that big door on the other side? Ten foot is what I would consider the minimum, and that can be really tight if you want to get a trailer in there or an RV, or anything with big mirrors on the side of it. Mine is ten foot wide and my next one will be 12 foot wide.

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Where will you store stuff? Will there be a work bench? Shelves should be two feet deep to hold anything at all. Same thing with a work bench. I wouldn't wan anything smaller. You have two long walls that would make great storage, but you only have a foot from the wall to the three doors. That really need to be four feet so you can have storage and park a car.

I hope to have space in the rear for a workspace, bench and table saw of course min. 2' deep bench

Do you have a porch over your walk through doors? They will rot on you if not protected. Every walk through door should have a some sort of roof over it to keep the rain from getting into the seals and rotting out the frame. This starts at the bottom and works its way up. It starts the day you install it and it just depends on how much weather you get as to how fast the rot proceeds.

None in plans but I will have one now!

I really, strongly suggest having a sink inside that you can wash things. Mine is close to the walk in door, and it's used all the time!!!!!

This garage is 90' from the rear of the home we are now building and although I was planning on a water spigot, I will likely blow that out for the winter. Sink?? Dunno about drainage.

To be truly helpful, we need to know what you are going to use this building for, and what you plan on putting in there. In my opinion, seeing those three doors, I think that you are building it too small.

The original was 30X40 but I've pushed the budget with the wife so I can get 34X42. Remember, I'm not a tradesman, just a guy with some toys.

 

[ultrarunner]

36x48 to gain a little width for 3 garage doors? (It's easier to spend other's money)

My first thought was if it is possible to rotate the garage 90 degrees and so you could have three 12' doors on your 42' wide wall?

The minimum here for sheer was 18" between doors and now it is 24"

I own a nice home but is has three 8' wide doors... it sure does limit and make it tight unless you drive small cars... the previous owner had a Mini and a Miata and BMW... they fit OK... but two were only 2 seat cars.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

My garage is 24x30 with 2 9ft wide doors, 2 ft on sides and middle.

Sides should be 4 ft min, so you have vehicle entry, storage room.

Then my barn is 30x48, and too small.

 

[ultrarunner]

I have a 22 x 30 and with 2 9 foot doors... it is OK if there in nothing but two cars and a bench at the far end...

Many times I've said how nice it would be instead of 22 wide it was 24 wide!

The 30 is OK but 32 would be better...

 

[Steppenwolfe]

1) What type of truss do you have in mind to allow that tall of rear door??? It does not look doable.
2) Do you really need two man/walk doors? I would eliminate the rear one.
3) Depending on your plans for stall 3, you might want the side door further back, so you can walk across the front of any vehicle parked there. OR further forward, all the way to front corner, so you can walk behind anything parked there (just leave room to pull forward at least 3')

Very first thing I thought of.

 

[Rustyiron]

My first thought was if it is possible to rotate the garage 90 degrees and so you could have three 12' doors on your 42' wide wall?

In snow country it's best to put your doors on the gable end if possible. Here's why;

This is what you get after you've plowed when the roof decides to shed it's snow.:laughing:

 

[ultrarunner]

Makes sense... "Almost" nothing I own is in snow country but of the two... one has a gable door to the rear of the property with distance being a problem and the other has doors on the side but the prevailing weather keep the snow at bay on the that side...

 

[Zebrafive]

Here's the roof cut away. I assume they are trusses but I'm no builder.
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Compare this picture with you first picture of the rear. Notice where the top of door comes in relationship to the bottom edge of the roof. VERY different.

 

[ericm979]

Since it appears that both ends of the build will have a driveway to it, I think it is a good idea to have a man door on each end. 4' wide ones might let you use that door for more and not have to open the big doors and let the heat out. What will you use for heat? Some people in the frozen north do in slab heating for their shops. I've been in houses with floor heat and it's really nice.

Would you be putting a car lift in at some point? You will need extra width in one stall for it.

Lay out the bench and workshop equipment to see if there's enough room for everything. You can put tables saws and other equipment on casters but you'll still need storage room and floor space to move it to when you use it.