New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue

   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #51  
I had it out and on the bench. Put 12 volts to it and it functioned.
Leave them loose?? For how long? And all 4 at once?
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #52  
What is the bleed screw on the right side of injector pump at about a 45 degree angle do?
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #53  
Leave them loose until fuel squirts out and tighten..

Just because it works on the bench, doesn’t mean it works in the engine.!!
I always leave it out when diagnosing a no start problem..
Don’t u have glow plugs.??
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #54  
From what I have read the glow plugs are more like a module I think. Kinda one glow plug?
Will it start with out the solendoid out. I started to replace it but once I saw it function on the bench I didn't. I'll pull it again and see.
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #55  
When was the last time this tractor ran? Strikes me that there are any number of disconnected/related/repeated threads running here & none are getting to the root of the problem. You need to systematically reduce the variables. Assuming that fuel is available through the system from tank through filter, to return and in sufficient volume to feed the injector pump, AND there are no sources of air leakage into the fuel feed before the Injector pump, the problem lies either in fuel solenoid/injector pump/or injectors. (I THINK, that you have established that you are getting good flow to the injector pump, so everything should be tight to prevent re-introduction of air before the injector pump. -- Not sure you filled the tank to eliminate a crack in the pick-up tube as possible air leak on the pre-injector pump side of the circuit.)

The next step should be loosen all the injector lines at the injectors & see how much fuel sprays out while cranking. If you get decent fuel spray from the injector lines, you have fuel to the injectors, but maybe not through them, so the injector pump & fuel cut-off is working (though whether to spec or not is for pumpguy or someone with a higher pay-grade than me to determine). If not, either your fuel cut-off or injector pump aren't working. Without knowing what has/hasn't been loosened/tightened/checked/set back to original/disconnected (since the tractor last ran), it's hard to pinpoint what is going on, since new questions/parts keep getting introduced (i.e. the new bleed valve question mentioned above). That's as far as my thinking goes. (if you do try to start without the fuel cutoff/be ready with a way to smother the air intake to kill it once you fire)

As far as air filter question above. The motor (any ICE motor) is nothing more than a giant air pump. To run, you need air (oxygen)/fuel (diesel/gas/nitro-methane/whatever)/and ignition/compression/heat to set off the explosion at the right time to keep the pump working. That moves air from intake side to exhaust side and the faster you move air, the more HP you produce since you need to introduce more fuel (bigger explosion) to keep the process running.

You raise an interesting question about Helene & non-working tractor ... namely, at what stage does it make sense to throw some money & have someone with more knowledge look at this instead of spinning wheels chasing solutions that don't work? Only you have that answer.
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #56  
Yeah that thought has been crossing my mind, The main problem is Helene took half my bridge out over a small river. That could be prohibitive.
I am going to revisit the fuel solenoid and see if it may be a problem while in the tractor.
As for what has been loosened and or tightened. Basically everything. Checking to see how far fuel is flowing. I have a helper at the moment so I am going to try and bleed at the injectors again and check the operation of the solenoid
Thank you very much for your great information.
Is the solenoid one click or continuous clicking



I'll report back later.
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #57  
The solenoid should pull the plunger back which is the click sound you hear to allow fuel to flow. When you turn the key off this solenoid is deenergize allowing the spring to push the plunger out shutting off fuel which stops your engine. Some solenoids you can feel them buzzing or get slightly warm because they are continuously energized while your tractor is running.
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #58  
Well got the solenoid in and it's gushing at the banjo bolt more than it was.
Going to start on the injectors tomorrow. I broke one loose to look but no fuel.
Do the steel lines have to be taken of the tractor to get an injector out?
 
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #59  
Have you verified your ignition switch is working correctly and the fuel shut of is functioning correctly on the tractor it’s self ? I see you bench tested it. You could make a external power source to open the solenoid then try starting it. This would jump over the ignition if it’s a issue.

* miss read and corrected post *
 
Last edited:
   / New Holland TC45D won't start fuel supply issue #60  
To remove the injectors the lines have to be out of the way. You might get by without removing them if the end on the pump is really loose.

However, if you bend the line(s) it’s sometimes really hard to get them back on and if kinked you need a new one(s).
 

Tractor & Equipment Auctions

2007 Thomas C2 Saf-T-Liner Bus #33 (A34302)
2007 Thomas C2...
ONAN 4KW GENERATOR (A34808)
ONAN 4KW GENERATOR...
4859 NEUERO GRAIN VAC PT ON MACH 1000 S/N:14067 (A34733)
4859 NEUERO GRAIN...
SAKAI SW320-1 ASPHALT ROLLER SN:4SW50-40129C powered by Kubota diesel engine, equipped with Folda... (A34907)
SAKAI SW320-1...
2024 AGT H12R Mini Excavator (A33249)
2024 AGT H12R Mini...
2019 CAT 313FLGC HYDRAULIC EXCAVATOR SN:HDK10464 powered by Cat diesel engine, equipped with Cab, (A34907)
2019 CAT 313FLGC...
 
Top