New to mid size tractors. Looking for some opinions.

  
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6Scorpion7

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hook up any modern 4wd tractor to any stuck object, put it in low range low gear rev it up to rated speed and pull. 1 of 3 things is going to happen:
1. The tractor loses traction.
2. Something breaks.
3. The stuck object becomes unstuck.

more HP will not change any of the 3 outcomes except #2

In a 4wd truck/jeep more hp will allow spinning of larger tires to clear the treads on them to provide more traction but not much and on a tractor with agg or R4 tires spinning the tires does not help much
I'm going back to the weight again. Neither tractor had the weight to stay planted, and that was after almost getting stuck themselves. The winch drug them to me. The guy with the 25hp John Deere did not want to chain the two tractors together, which might have worked or might not have. Either way, that doesn't encompass my only need for the tractor. Just one of the things I thought of at the moment, when I thought I may be leaving my truck and riding a couple miles on the side of one of their tractors. Lol
 

LouNY

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hook up any modern 4wd tractor to any stuck object, put it in low range low gear rev it up to rated speed and pull. 1 of 3 things is going to happen:
1. The tractor loses traction.
2. Something breaks.
3. The stuck object becomes unstuck.

more HP will not change any of the 3 outcomes except #2

In a 4wd truck/jeep more hp will allow spinning of larger tires to clear the treads on them to provide more traction but not much and on a tractor with agg or R4 tires spinning the tires does not help much
Not always there are many times, well actually I can't think of many when I used low range first pulling another stuck tractor or truck out.
I was usually in a gear that would give me 5 to 6 mph at least, and yes that was with enough horsepower to break traction at those speeds
even with a heavy tractor.
My last heavy pull out was my neighbor a couple of years ago, my "little" 8050 which is dressed out to close to 12,000 pounds with chains all the way around pulling on his stuck IH 966 with a tandem axle manure spreader in deep mud.
 

DaBear3428

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Not always there are many times, well actually I can't think of many when I used low range first pulling another stuck tractor or truck out.
I was usually in a gear that would give me 5 to 6 mph at least, and yes that was with enough horsepower to break traction at those speeds
even with a heavy tractor.
My last heavy pull out was my neighbor a couple of years ago, my "little" 8050 which is dressed out to close to 12,000 pounds with chains all the way around pulling on his stuck IH 966 with a tandem axle manure spreader in deep mud.
I agree with all you stated, my point is that in none of these cases would additional HP have helped the tractor, with truck tires there is something to be said for tire spin clearing the lugs and providing better traction, that is not the case for agg tires or even R4s, tractors have so much gearing that for low speed tasks like pulling in mud does not help unless you want to try turning the stuck event into a mud drag race, but that just increases the chances of #2 on my list.
 
 
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