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[Hay Dude]

Neat question! I hope that it doesn't disappoint that I don't have the answers....

Trickle down sounded good - very Jeffersonian & intellectual. As a economic system it hasn't faired well. Part of that is because trickle down does obviously promote divisiveness - and in doing that, the trickle down legacy is responsible for part of our social problems today.

My own utopian economic system would be based on a standard health and education for everyone - public or private - until they are adult. Then after that, riches in proportion to how much a person benefits society. i.e. socialism for the young followed by pretty pure capitalism. Not too different from what we have right now.

I'm afraid I differ from the American ideal in that I don't believe in inherited riches for a do-nothing class. If that offends anyone, it's nothing personal, I simply don't think that a democracy can survive if it spends its profits financing a hereditary aristocracy.

rScotty

I look at the SVB bank failure and subsequent rescue by the G________ as a way of financing hereditary aristocracy.
I think the sign on the bank doors typically says

$250,000 is one thing. I didn’t know it was extended to multi million dollar companies?

 

[Sid Post]

Neat question! I hope that it doesn't disappoint that I don't have the answers....

Trickle down sounded good - very Jeffersonian & intellectual. As a economic system it hasn't faired well. Part of that is because trickle down does obviously promote divisiveness - and in doing that, the trickle down legacy is responsible for part of our social problems today.

My own utopian economic system would be based on a standard health and education for everyone - public or private - until they are adult. Then after that, riches in proportion to how much a person benefits society. i.e. socialism for the young followed by pretty pure capitalism. Not too different from what we have right now.

I'm afraid I differ from the American ideal in that I don't believe in inherited riches for a do-nothing class. If that offends anyone, it's nothing personal, I simply don't think that a democracy can survive if it spends its profits financing a hereditary aristocracy.

rScotty

Fair points. I personally found the public education I had to be more of an incompetent fraternity of people with little regard for their pupils and the education delivered. It was really more of a system of graft self-enrichment.

College was mostly about ass-kissing and inflating instructor egos. A lot of what was taught was more of a personal interest and not about a well-rounded education or one of solid fundamentals.

For what it is worth, I was a caucasian male from the Oklahoma wheat fields. One class was with a black 20 something instructor who was lecturing us on the unfairness and racism of our society and how testing was systematically structured to make minorities look incompetent so, she administered the "Chitlins test" to demonstrate how unfair it would be if "we privileged white people and the racist system" had the same flawed tests administered to white people. Guess who had the top score and beat the black students on this test?

In terms of inherited wealth. Who determines the "do nothing" status? While I think Abigail Disney is a lunatic, others think she is doing "God's" work. While most would think a drug-addicted or mentally deficient recipient of an inheritance with no ability to manage things fits the "do nothing" intent, what about those with vastly different thought processes than the many of us? It gets to be a slippery slope pretty fast. Personally, I'm more opposed to the George Soros's and similar individuals of the world who are actively working to destroy society as we know it. I get it isn't perfect but, it is a lot better than any other system known by humankind if you care about the general populations living within them. Even the Scandinavian governance systems many point to as being "Utopia" have issues IMHO that makes the USA system superior.

 

[Sid Post]

I look at the SVB bank failure and subsequent rescue by the G________ as a way of financing hereditary aristocracy.
I think the sign on the bank doors typically says

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$250,000 is one thing. I didn’t know it was extended to multi million dollar companies?

Yes, if someone like myself was caught up in a flawed bank like that, would I be made whole by the current administration and the minions that advocate those policies?

Why did financially privileged start-ups who DID NOT DO basic financial due diligence get protection far in excess of the FDIC coverage? Favoritism in financial markets is demonized when a conservative slant is implied but, when the "New World Order" and very liberal or outright socialist ideals are at risk the taxpayer comes to the rescue.

Too big to fail only applies if you are politically connected to enriching members of Congress or sustaining their political legacies and control. Just look at the China policy of the current administration and where the wealth for the poorest member of Congress has come from. Mitch McConnel is also affected by similar financial influences as were those in charge of the government regarding Saudi-affiliated entanglements in the Mid-East.

COVID policy was also used to enrich certain groups and support their ever-increasing control and power over large groups of people. It is easy to say it is or was, all about science when the vast majority of people lack the scientific background to understand what is being said or distort the facts to imply falsities.

 

[TN8Man]

Yes, if someone like myself was caught up in a flawed bank like that, would I be made whole by the current administration and the minions that advocate those policies?

Why did financially privileged start-ups who DID NOT DO basic financial due diligence get protection far in excess of the FDIC coverage? Favoritism in financial markets is demonized when a conservative slant is implied but, when the "New World Order" and very liberal or outright socialist ideals are at risk the taxpayer comes to the rescue.

Too big to fail only applies if you are politically connected to enriching members of Congress or sustaining their political legacies and control. Just look at the China policy of the current administration and where the wealth for the poorest member of Congress has come from. Mitch McConnel is also affected by similar financial influences as were those in charge of the government regarding Saudi-affiliated entanglements in the Mid-East.

COVID policy was also used to enrich certain groups and support their ever-increasing control and power over large groups of people. It is easy to say it is or was, all about science when the vast majority of people lack the scientific background to understand what is being said or distort the facts to imply falsities.

Corruption and criminality does not just exist in the political class, they have corrupted many segments of our society including science and education. When a politician or anyone claims "the science is settled" a red flag should be raised.

 

[ddbackhoe]

It's not just teachers, contractors, and industry..... Small towns all across the country need workers and can't find them. Check for ads in the local state municapal league website.

Things like town clerk, water department, parks, roads and bridges - all of those take a full time person or several just to keep them going. They all pay decent, but need a self-starter type person who understands how to do different jobs even if all they do is schedule them.

Housing and education assistance often goes with those jobs.

rScotty

Can’t find applicants or just not filling vacancies. Government jobs like to advertise but sometimes have not provided funding for the actual position. Other times, they do not receive enough “qualified applicants” and will reannounce the position(s).

 

[5030]

The government used to be a good job. Not today as most governmental positions are under funded and not that good to begin with.

 

[2manyrocks]

If someone can stay with it until retirement, their retirement benefits may be more secure than the average joe or jill in the private section. My mother was a public school teacher in the days when their pay wasn't good but her retirement pay was secure and she lived long enough that it sort of offset the low pay she received while working.

 

[Rdrcr]

The government used to be a good job. Not today as most governmental positions are under funded and not that good to begin with.

Man, and I believe they are ALL over funded and improperly managed!

Mike

 

[jyoutz]

Fair points. I personally found the public education I had to be more of an incompetent fraternity of people with little regard for their pupils and the education delivered. It was really more of a system of graft self-enrichment.

College was mostly about ass-kissing and inflating instructor egos. A lot of what was taught was more of a personal interest and not about a well-rounded education or one of solid fundamentals.

For what it is worth, I was a caucasian male from the Oklahoma wheat fields. One class was with a black 20 something instructor who was lecturing us on the unfairness and racism of our society and how testing was systematically structured to make minorities look incompetent so, she administered the "Chitlins test" to demonstrate how unfair it would be if "we privileged white people and the racist system" had the same flawed tests administered to white people. Guess who had the top score and beat the black students on this test?

In terms of inherited wealth. Who determines the "do nothing" status? While I think Abigail Disney is a lunatic, others think she is doing "God's" work. While most would think a drug-addicted or mentally deficient recipient of an inheritance with no ability to manage things fits the "do nothing" intent, what about those with vastly different thought processes than the many of us? It gets to be a slippery slope pretty fast. Personally, I'm more opposed to the George Soros's and similar individuals of the world who are actively working to destroy society as we know it. I get it isn't perfect but, it is a lot better than any other system known by humankind if you care about the general populations living within them. Even the Scandinavian governance systems many point to as being "Utopia" have issues IMHO that makes the USA system superior.

I don’t know what classes you took in college, but most of mine were science and math; classes that don’t talk philosophy. I did have a few humanities classes that did wander to creative thinking, but these classes are minor in semester hours compared to core classes for a major.

 

[jyoutz]

The government used to be a good job. Not today as most governmental positions are under funded and not that good to begin with.

It is true that most federal jobs pay less than the private sector equivalents. Some states pay more than the private sector. The trade off is job satisfaction. In my case, I could work for a private timber company and make more money. But I enjoy managing forest lands for multiple uses, instead of just saw logs. But indeed we do manage for sawtimber also. I just find the multiple uses aspects more interesting.