NS4710C HST ride comfort

[txbonds]

If you don't have the tires filled, fill them. The ride will be even better yet. I have all four tires filled on both my 5000lb and 12,000lb machines. Makes a HUGE difference in the ride besides adding traction and stability.

Thanks, I may do that.

The biggest thing that will make it better though will be getting your top/tilt kit. Hurry Please............. LOL

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Thanks, I may do that.

The biggest thing that will make it better though will be getting your top/tilt kit. Hurry Please............. LOL

I don't see that adding 30lbs to the 3pt is going to make the tractor ride any better.

With some luck, I'll be able to get to your order before Veterans day.

 

[IndyIan]

If you don't have the tires filled, fill them. The ride will be even better yet. I have all four tires filled on both my 5000lb and 12,000lb machines. Makes a HUGE difference in the ride besides adding traction and stability.

Really? I've always thought loading tires made them less "springy" as basically 2/3 or more of the air is gone so the spring rate of the tire goes up much faster?
You got me thinking though, I guess that means you can run lower air pressure with loaded tires without folding off the rims?
I have my R1 rears loaded and fairly low air pressure and they feel quite dead, not much bouncing but also I know it when they find a hole too, and having 1100lb on the 3pt doesn't really change the ride.
My R1 fronts aren't loaded and I have to run them with lots of air pressure, 30 psi, to keep them from rolling off the rim if I have a round bale on the front and nothing on the 3pt. They do ride nice with a bale on the 3pt and a bale on the loader, but can get a bit of bounce going.
I got my tractor with the rears loaded so I don't know what that is like, I guess a bit more bouncy but would ride a bit smoother with the box blade or bale on the 3pt.
I've read here that a field tractor works best with unloaded tires, but wheel weights added?

 

[txbonds]

I don't see that adding 30lbs to the 3pt is going to make the tractor ride any better.

With some luck, I'll be able to get to your order before Veterans day.

Awesome. Thanks.

The ride may not be better, but my bones will feel better about not having to climb on and off the tractor as much to hitch up. Nothing like a quick hitch and the top/tilt links once you get the implements dialed in for it.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Think of the fluid in the tire as a shock absorber. With just air, you have a beach ball.
I ran my 75hp tractor for 1 year with no added ballast, while it was ok at 9500lbs, I knew that it was not enough for what I needed to do. I started adding weight (wheel weights, then liquid ballast, then more wheel weights) until I got to where I was able to get all I could get from the machine. The ride performance was an unknown benefit, but most definitely there. Yes fluid in your front tires will most definitely help your situation IMO.

 

[rScotty]

Really? I've always thought loading tires made them less "springy" as basically 2/3 or more of the air is gone so the spring rate of the tire goes up much faster?
You got me thinking though, I guess that means you can run lower air pressure with loaded tires without folding off the rims?
I have my R1 rears loaded and fairly low air pressure and they feel quite dead, not much bouncing but also I know it when they find a hole too, and having 1100lb on the 3pt doesn't really change the ride.
My R1 fronts aren't loaded and I have to run them with lots of air pressure, 30 psi, to keep them from rolling off the rim if I have a round bale on the front and nothing on the 3pt. They do ride nice with a bale on the 3pt and a bale on the loader, but can get a bit of bounce going.
I got my tractor with the rears loaded so I don't know what that is like, I guess a bit more bouncy but would ride a bit smoother with the box blade or bale on the 3pt.

I wish there was some easy way to test unloaded vs filled tires. Some of the reported advanages is bound to be owner perception... but how much? And how much is due to the type of tires and the type of surface they are used on? A tire filled with fluid can't be as springy as one filled with air can it? I can see where it would bounce less. What a pain with a leak or a flat, though....

Our mountain land is hard, mostly "DG" disintigrated granite. There isn't much of what most people think of as dirt. A lot of work is on slopes. Ag tires are worse than useless because they slide and there is no clay or loam sub-base for Ag cleats to grip. There are a lots of rocks, creeks, and ledges to climb over and work around.

Popular tires in the rocky mountains are industrial or turf types for the way they add grip and stability. It's important that a tire flex a lot. Most people run low pressures to help with that. On an 8500 lb tractor I ru 20 psi rear and 30 front.

I've never used loaded tires and don't know of anyone who does. We did try wheel weights on one tractor, but didn't come to any conclusions. It didn't seem to make much difference in the way the tractor handled.
rScotty

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Well, in 24 years of having filled R4 tires in one machine or another, we have never had a flat where we had to deal with the tires being filled. In fact the only flats we have even had were on the Case 580E backhoe, and that was on the front tire after new tires were installed.

All I can say is that with you not having operated a machine that has had both, you really can't make any (real) judgment calls. Both of my utility tractors were day and night difference in ride and in added machine capabilities by having the tires filled.

The tires still flex just as much as they would with the same amount of air. The fluid is just a dampener that absorbs shock instead of transferring it to the tractor axles.

Oh, and our property is both DG and topsoil depending on where on the property you are.

But enough of all this, on to the next item at hand.