Pine Sol soak underway

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Tollster

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Kubota, BX23
1996 Polaris sportsman 400 2-stroke. Run like a champ, then it will die and leave you sitting, sometimes it will refire, other times draining the battery. Checked fuel flow, looks as good as new, spark appears fine, plug is wet, have also replaced plug, but sill will not refire, two days later, it'll run like a top, then leave you sitting, could be fifty yards sprint, or 1/4 mile. Swapped fuel out, with high test, still nothing, drop carb, checked bowl, no debris, no fungus, no gum, jet look clear, only normal tarnishing.
Also check fuse panel, no corrosion, normal oxidation on aluminum contacts showing no sign of moisture every entering
WTF
The only thing I can possibly think of is the reverse by-pass switch has given me trouble for about 5 years now.

NORMAL OPERATION: Place quad in reverse, back up, a governor engages at low RPM to prevent the mentally inept from hurting themselves, you can then push the yellow switch on the left handle bar to bypass the governor, allowing full range of acceleration in reverse when needed.

My issue with by-pass: Place quad in reverse, instant stall, push the bypass switch, then put unit in reverse, full range of acceleration and no stalling...

I thought today I would do a final fuel system check, verifying flow, and checking the bowl one more time, I cleaned the exterior of the carb, and flushed the bowl, then removed the jets, and am soaking over night in 3 parts water, 1 part pine-sol, for a like new carb.

Will reinstall and see what happens...

I do not believe its compression, and cannot get my guage on the top end due to clearance issues. Its tight and pulls like a new chainsaw, it also only has 900 babied miles on it, its used for shores, hunting, and fishing by an adult to has owned it since new, also garaged and covered...

Any other suggestions?
 
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Are you getting fire to the plugs when it stalls out. Could be problem with ignition coil (or whatever provides the spark) getting hot and shorting out then when it cools it works again. I have had that problem with older auto ignition coils as well as new electronic ignition modules.
 
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Gary, I've never checked it when it dies, I always try to restart it. I know it has sat in the garage and would not start, so I pulled the plug, and swapped it out, verifying the spark before putting it in, still would not fire... it does have a Capacitor discharge ignition (CDI).
 
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Well the soak didn't help, but the carb is spick and span...

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The machine sounds like is going to start, the piston actually spins the starter, its that close, but will not catch.. its right on the cusp.. I'm starting to lean towards the electronic side, but I'm not good with electronics, mechanical speaking of course...LOL

With that in mind, I'm thinking weak spark... and the cheapest first replacement part working from the plug back to the CDI would be?

Do these fail? What would be the precursors of a failure?

Pulsar Coil Sportsman 400 Polaris

Otherwise I'm leaning towards some sort of wire chaffing issue maybe?
 
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Sounds just like a CD box failure. And it could be as simple as the connections to that CD box. I had a honda that did just what yours is doing.
 

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