PT 1850 oil and filter-change geezer-reminders

   / PT 1850 oil and filter-change geezer-reminders #1  

MikeOConnor

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Two Power-Trac 1850s (preferred for mowing and grapple-bucket clearing type work on really steep hills). Kubota M680 for snowblowing, grading, bucket.
Hi all,

Long time no post -- sorry Covid kinda knocked things loose for a few years and I'm just now getting back to the PT maintenance. Which means I forgot a lot of stuff (and am more likely to forget it again). So here's a link to a little "reminders" post I just wrote myself.

https://www.haven2.com/index.php/archives/power-trac-1850-oil-and-hydraulic-filter-change-tips


And here's what it says (as of today):

Oil change

Try a socket wrench on the drain plug – might be easier to get the leverage-pipe on it.

The tractor takes just over 2 gallons of oil, so a 2.5 gallon jug isn’t enough to do both the oil change and the hydraulic filter. Three jugs will do both tractors and have a little to spare for topping up the hydraulic fluid reservoirs. 10W-40 or 15W-40 will work. I’ve taken to using synthetic oil. YMMV

Work out a gizmo to route the old oil out of the engine to the hole in the bottom of the tractor — it needs high walls around a fairly large catch basin that’s then routed to the exit via a wide path. Goal is to avoid overflowing into the engine compartment. Aluminum foil is going to be my material of choice for the next attempt.

Use the small funnel with the long flexible neck to snake into the filler — a single pour is a two-person job (one person holding the funnel, the other pouring).

Pay attention to where the handle on the dipstick winds up on the newer tractor — it has a curved rotating handle. Make sure it’s rotated out of the path of the hood as it comes down.

Use grass-clippings/sand/gravel to clean up floor spills.


Hydraulic filter change

Use the breaker bar and pipe extender to break the filter loose — it’ll take about an eighth of a turn before it releases and it’s very hard to turn. Thus it’s essential to know which way to rotate. Figure out upside-down righty-tighty lefty-loosey in advance.

Prepare for a few ounces of oil spilling out as the seal breaks — relieving hydraulic pressure doesn’t seem to quite clear the pressure to the filter. A couple rags per filter – one to catch the initial burst, another to clean and hold the outgoing and inbound filter.

Note that the path of the filter out and back in is a little twisty. Down first, then out.

Use clean oil to fill the new filter. Not quite all the way to the top, so’s to make it easier to navigate it into place and get the threads started without spilling.

Purge the air out of the system after installing the new filter using the longer one-ended hose so it can reach the reservoir under the driver’s seat. Use short bursts of crank/run on the tractor where the deadman switch is disabled.
 
   / PT 1850 oil and filter-change geezer-reminders #2  
Thanks Mike! Sorry that Covid hit you hard; I know the feeling. My $0.02 is take it easy and don't push it in recovery.

Three things that I do that may help; one, I have moved to a large chain wrench for getting the hydraulic filters off. For me, a chain wrench is a night and day improvement in leverage. Second, to catch the spilling oil, I put a large ziplock around and under the hydraulic filter once the seal is broken and it is down to "hand tight". (Thanks @MossRoad!) Third, I found a medium size plastic jar (old vitamin container?) with a large neck that just fits in the chassis hole and is taller than the Deutz oil plug. I cut the bottom off the jar and part of one side (toward the oil plug). I loosen the plug with a wrench, and then put the upside down jar in the chassis hole and the. fully loosen and remove the drain plug. The high wall stops the oil flow and directs it down the drain hole. I rarely have an oil on the tractor chassis any more.

I got out of the habit of pre-filling oil filters with oil after seeing a few analyses of the debris in new oil containers. YMMV: I'm not sure that there is a right answer.

I also put strong magnets on the outside of both oil filters, and have taken to cutting the old filters open to check on what is inside.

Finally, I have taken to using paint markers to write date and hours on all my filters. It helps me with the Swiss cheese brain effects.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / PT 1850 oil and filter-change geezer-reminders #3  
The EZ style oil drain valves work well and you can run a hose from them through the large hole.


I keep a cap on mine for safety. Previously, I had a different brand and it was not as reliable. Below is what I ordered for my PT1850 (note that the prices you see are for the total of two of each, prices from 2020).

EZ Cap - (SMALL DC-001)
2​
$3.00​
H-001: Straight Hose End 3/8"
2​
$8.00​
EZ-104 [Thread size : 18mm-1.5]
2​
$47.90​
Subtotal​
$58.90
Shipping - FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS $50+ (GROUND SHIPMENT ONLY)​
$0.00

I also ordered some of their hose clamps to secure the valve as a precaution.

I highly recommend this setup for a no mess oil draining.

Ken

Ken
 

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