Pumping your septic tank

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coachgrd

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I hear two schools of thought on this issue. Some say if your septic system is working properly, you should never have to have it pumped. Others say you should have it pumped every 3-4 years regardless. What do all of you guys do with yours?

Thanks,
Gary
 
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I have mine pumped every 3 years. I recall a chart I found on a Penn State website that gave a schedule based on tank size, number of people in household, etc.
 
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I've read the same 2 schools, so will read on with interest. Myself? The septic pump guy lives about 4 miles away from me (not that it matters) and said it's roughly $250 to do.

I'm leaning on having it done under the logic of it sure cant HURT to have it done...where as COULD it hurt to NOT do it?

For $250 verses what I paid to have it installed, it's almost a no brainer "insurance" gamble for me.

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No solution for you but here are some situations I've experienced...

The house I grew up in had a septic system with a clay tile drainfield. In the 20 plus years my parents lived there the tank was never pumped. Never had a problem with it.

We sold our subdivision home nearly two years ago. Had the tank pumped every few years but found some wet spots in the yard as we were prepping to sell. The house was only 12 years old. Turns out the field system had failed and the liquid was bubbling up in several spots. Diagnosis: Some say it was the tank filling up with solids and the solids get out into the field and plug things up. Others say the natural process of breakdown out in the field produces bacterial by-products which clog it up. I don't know the real answer, only that we had to include an allowance for a new system for the new owner when we sold. Also note that field system failures have become extremely common in that particular community and the building codes have changed since we built that house.

Our new house also has a septic but it has an outlet filter screen coming out of the tank into the field. A couple of months ago I noticed water pooling at the access cover. I suspected the worst and called our builder. He reminded me about the filter and told me he had a tool (bent rod) to remove it. I did, rinsed it out and all is well.

My plan, based strictly on circumstantial data, is to rinse the filter annually and have the tank pumped every two to three years. It seems logical and it's relatively inexpensive. Even with a properly operating system, there will always be some solid matter that accumulates in the tank. That is what it is there for.

BTW, the outlet filters are retro-fittable (is that a word?) /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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We moved into our first house with a septic system 7 years ago. Like you I worried about having them pumped, there were 2, but I couldn't find them even with the original architect's house plans. I talked to the original owner who built the house 50 years earlier and he told me where they were. I dug up the one that handles the kitchen/laundry/shop and it had absolutely no solids in it at all. The second one looks as if it has been covered by a poured concrete slab sometime in the last 50 years so I can't get to it but it has worked perfectly since we have been here and presumably for years before that. I only hope it continues to work as jack hammering that concrete to get to it will be a real PITA. So, I suppose my answer to the your question is yes and no. If they're working good, they'll work for years without any problems but if there's something goes wrong it could be one almighty mess. I think if I could, I would have them pumped every 3 or 4 years, just to avoid any disasters. As it is, I check one every 3 years and keep my fingers crossed regarding the other one.
 
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THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH SEPTIC SYSTEMS IS THE SOLIDS GITTIN OUT INTO THE FIELD ..SCREENS R AWESOME AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE ONE ON THE OUTER CHAMBER EXIT...99% OF THE PROBLEMS HAPPEN WITH THE FIELD PLUGGIN UP BCUZ OF ROOTS,AND SOLIDS PLUGGIN EM UP..THE OLD CLAY PIPES WILL BREAK DOWN OVER TIME PRESENT FIELD IS LESS THAN 15 YRS OLD AND ALL PLASTIC... A MAJOR PLUS AS THE PIPE BETWEEN THE TANK AND FIELD IS VIRRTUALLY IMPENETRATABLE!! I HAVE SOME TREES A FEW FEET FROM THE FIELD WHICH R GOIN !!! ROOTS WILL TAVEL HUNDREDS OF FEET TO GIT 2 THE NUTRIENT RICH WATER AND CAN GIT INTO ALMOST ANY LEACH FIELD SYSTEM..THE FIELD HERE IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WOODS[NOT MY DESIGN!!] SOI'VE GOT A LOTTA WORK 2 DO!! RID EX REALLY WORKS WELLTO HELP KEEP UP THE BACTERIA S HEALTH..DETERGENTS CAN B VIRTUALL THE DEATH OF ANY TANKS ABILITY TO EAT **** ..I BUILT AN HERB GARDEN ON TOP OF MY TANK WHICH MAKES ACCESS TO MY 3 DOORS EASY AS PIE..TO KEEP MY TILLER TINES FROM CATCHIN THE REBAR HANDLES I JUST SLID A PIECE OF LUMBER SNUGLY UNDER THE REBAR AND THE TINES JUST SKIP OVER THEM....
REGARDING TANKS AND JACKHAMMERS...
DONT DO IT ...RENT A CONCRETE SAW AND THE GOOD ONES'LL WILL GIVE YOU THE ABILITY TO ANGLE THE BLADE ..IF ONE WITH THE ANGLE BLADE IS NOT AVAILABLE..JUST PUT A 2X4 UNDER ONE TIRE AND CUT YER ACCESS PANES...B4 THAT GET A HAMMER DRILL AND DRILL 2 HOLES AND BEND A PIECE INTO THE SHAPE OF A HANDLE AND USE CONCRETE EPOXY 2 SET IT INTO THE DOOR..THEN MAKE YER 4 CUTS.REMEMBER YOULL HAVE 2 MAKE THE CUTS LONG BECAUSE THE CUTTIN BLADE IS ROUND...THE TANK CAN ALSO JIST HAVE A LITTLE FLOWER BED ON IT AS THIS MAKES TEARIN UP YER LAWN EVERY YEAR TO CLEAN THE SCREEN MUCH EASIER...SORRY TO ALL U GUYS WHO HAVE YER TANKS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PERFECTLY MANICURED LAWN.. PUMPIN IS A GOOD INSURANCE POLICY BUT IF YER FIELD IS IN GOOD SHAPE AND THE SCREEN IS CLEAN THEN I'D SPEND THE $$$ FOR PUMPIN ON LANDSCAPIN TIMBERS AND A BIRDBATH /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

GOOD LUCK
TODD
 
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We bought in 1999. New construction. 5 years now without any problems. I was told that if it is not backing up, notice wet spots, that it is working fine and don't worry about it.
I was also told that it's not like a lightbulb or radiator hose blowing, in that you'll notice if something is wrong well before major problems set in. I leave well-enough alone. My opinion.
 
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Polecat....... please turn off the capital key lock.... in computer language that is referred to as "screaming". It is very uncomfortable to read also. Makes my eyes hurt. /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
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The main reason to have the tank pumped is not to remove the human solid waste, but to remove the waxes that float to the top of the tank. This wax build up consists of soap and fats that separate from the human waste. The waste itself isn't the problem because it falls to the bottom as sludge. The wax layer builds up on the top of the tank and at a certain point, this will become so thick that it will eventually work its way into the leach field lines and clog them. When this happens, it is going to cost a lot to replace the leach field itself. When you use products such as Rid X, they tend to break down the wax and help to move it along the system. You are better off to pump the system more often and not use any "enhancements". The number of people in the home is only one variable, how the system is used is also important. Where does the washing machine water go, is the water soft or hard, how many showers a day, garbage disposal usage, how you handle fats, such as bacon, etc. We put all fats into a empty soup can that is kept in the freezer and when it is 3/4 full it goes out in the garbage. Anything that you cook that has residual fats, such as bacon or hamburger, drain into the can while it is still liquid to dispose of it. We also use a lot of ammonia to break down grease so it doesn't build up in the drain pipes. It will separate again and become part of the fat layer in the septic tank later on, so the ammonia doesn't create a problem in the tank. When you compare the cost of a new septic system to the cost of pumping, every other year is cheap insurance. This is even more important where the soils have a high concentration of clay. If you have a backhoe, go to an area near your leach field and do a test perk test to see how good your drainage actually is. You might be surprised as to what you will learn.
 

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