Quality of Wicked Buckets? Market for Used Non-SSQA Buckets?

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Suburban Plowboy

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I have been trying to decide what to do about converting my Kubota L3710 to SSQA. I was thinking I would get an adaptor and then attach a plate to my bucket. Now I'm thinking maybe I should just get a new bucket and sell my old one.

Has anyone here tried the Everything Attachments Wicked Buckets? I wouldn't want to trade a good Kubota bucket for a bad aftermarket bucket.

Also, is there any market for used Kubota buckets that attach with pins? I am concerned that if I do a swap, the old bucket will sit in my yard until I have to haul it to a metal dealer for pennies. There are a lot of Kubotas around here, but I have to wonder why anyone would be in need of a used old-style bucket.
 
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Also, how thick should the steel on a weld-on adaptor for a bucket be? My loader is rated at 1500 pounds.
 
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My guess is that there isn't that much of a market for used pin on buckets because it's sort of a pain to change them and you'd have to find a buyer who was interested in the particular bucket you have. There's a chance that it doesn't matter that it's a kubota bucket if the buyer is just going to convert it to quick attach themselves and is looking for a straight, unbent bucket.

I don't know anything about the Wicket Buckets. Never used one.

I would think the conversion attachment shouldn't be any less thick than the mount on your existing bucket, if not heavier.
 
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Thanks very much for the reply.
 
   / Quality of Wicked Buckets? Market for Used Non-SSQA Buckets? #5  
You are welcome. TractorHouse.com currently has two pages of Kubota buckets for sale. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listin...000&Category=22005&Manufacturer=KUBOTA&page=2 Clicking on the High/low/average, the average auction result is $276, but the average retail is $985, FWIW.

I tend to think it would eat into your pocket to buy a new bucket and eat into your pocket again to try to sell your existing factory bucket.

The key to converting the bucket you have is to do a good job on the conversion so that it functions well and looks good, too. If things got out of alignment in the conversion, it could be frustrating to change from the bucket to forks if you have to stop and fiddle with it to get things to line up. I think this is why some people opt for building a set of forks to fit their bucket so they don't have to mess with adapters.

Based on your pictures from your other thread, I think a lot of your frustration with the way you have to chain your forks to your bucket could be resolved by welding your forks to a frame that either clamps or bolts in place in your bucket.

The QA conversion starts to make more sense if you would be adding more attachments to your FEL and were changing them out frequently.

Anyway, just my thoughts.
 
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I converted my FEL and bucket to SSQA. Had a local welding shop put the adapter plate on the bucket for $100. I knew what quality my NH bucket was.

 
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When I converted my M5030 to ssqa I welded a 1/4” plate adapter to the old bucket pin on gussets. Lost a little roll back angle. Could have cut the pin on gussets back before welding on the bucket side adapter plate to improve roll back angle but never did a redo. That would also give a little more breakout force. Something to consider.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. I truly appreciate it.

It is true that I could fix some of the fork issues by welding the forks together and so on, but then I would have an attachment weighing at least 200 pounds, to attach by myself. Moving it would not be a lot of fun, either. I don't have a boom pole. I would also be unable to vary the distance between forks, limiting their use as a makeshift forklift. Welding would work great, but I think it would cause more problems than it would solve.

I could put some kind of bar across the forks and attach them to it, but then things would not slide onto them they way they should. They would hit the bar and stop. Then the bar would probably bend.

Designing these things with turnbuckles seems like a terrible idea. Even with grease, I have to use a breaker bar to turn them, and I generally have to get off the tractor several times to retighten them because they settle on the bucket during use, causing the forks to loosen and move. They used to be even worse. Some mechanical wizard apparently put a Vise Grip on one in the past, compressing it and reducing the internal diameter, because it was dinged up and hard to turn. I had to buy a special tap and chase the threads to make it work again. I should probably put that tap on Ebay now. How often do you use a tap that big?

Hard to believe anyone would put a Vise Grip on a turnbuckle, but I understand his frustration, trying to use the tiny built-in tommy bars to turn it. I was thinking if I didn't get an SSQA, I might buy some huge hex nuts and weld them to the outsides of the turnbuckles so I could use a big wrench. Of course, the manufacturer didn't think of that obvious move. With that big tap, I could correct any warpage issues caused by exterior welds.

I feel like I could install the SSQA and then cut the forks up and attach them to some kind of shopmade frame. I could attach them with bolts and make extra holes in the frame so I could move the forks to different locations when needed. There is no way I would ever lift enough to break bolts, so there would be no need to weld the forks to the frame. Right now, the forks are held on with bolts subject to shearing forces, which are way higher than pulling forces due to weight on the forks, and they have never begun to shear. It's much easier to shear a bolt than to stretch it until it breaks, so I'm sure bolts would do a fine job holding the forks on.

Anyway, I guess I should spend now if I'm going to spend. Next year, we may have Weimar-style inflation, and the money I wanted to spend on an SSQA may be just about enough to get breakfast at Cracker Barrel.
 
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I gave up and ordered an ATI Tach-All. I was trying to get the local Kubota people to sell me a Kubota adaptor, but they said they would call back and never did. I called them two days later to remind them, and they said it might be a couple of days before they finished "researching" the availability of the product. My sense is that they have no interest in selling it to me, so they just blew me off. Surely Kubota dealers have a way of finding out whether a product is or is not available, without taking days.

Now I need an adaptor plate. Actually, I need one for the bucket and one for the brush forks. Or maybe I'll just order a Wicked Bucket and sell the Kubota bucket.
 
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Several years ago, I bought a SSQA bare plate from EBay.
It was surprisingly affordable, including shipping thru UPS.
 
 

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