Ron: I live in the central coast of California in the wine country. The local JD dealer in Santa Maria had about 50 JD 790 (30 total HP, 25 PTO HP). He has less than 10/ they are used to tow trailers through the fields during harvest and have probably "0" PTO hrs. I bought a 1998 JD 770 20 PTO HP recently from a guy that bought it in June 1999 with 52 hours. The NH dealer in Paso Robles had some NH 29D models with around 50 hrs. They had their 50 hr service. They are all basic 8 or 9 speed manual shift 4X4 tractors with rear PTO only. I'vd not seen a new JD 790 at a dealer, they only had the lease returns, and unload them each year. You might have more barganing power on one of these than a new one. Just like cars. they want to sell what's on the lot. If I hadn't found my 770 with only 229 hrs, Id' have bought a lease return. If they did have nave any initial problems, they've been fixed. Plus, they come with no implement other than a tow bar, so your FEL< etc is new anyway. You might want to consider updating your profile. Seems price is driven by location, and we in California pay through the nose.