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[bdog]

As I understand it, 4 tie downs is 10k and over. Any attachments (loader, backhoe, blade, etc) require their own tie down unless they can be pinned in place, no matter the weight.

Aaron Z

That is correct and is is overkill. I am all for securement safety but putting chains for the blade and ripper on my dozer makes no sense but I have to. They are not removable without taking out a ton of bolts and even if they magically decided to raise on their own they couldn't go high enough to hit anything. I have never seen or heard of a backhoe boom or loader raising on its own either for that matter but at least with those it is theoretically possible if they did they could go high enough to hit an overpass or something.

 

[aczlan]

That is correct and is is overkill. I am all for securement safety but putting chains for the blade and ripper on my dozer makes no sense but I have to. They are not removable without taking out a ton of bolts and even if they magically decided to raise on their own they couldn't go high enough to hit anything. I have never seen or heard of a backhoe boom or loader raising on its own either for that matter but at least with those it is theoretically possible if they did they could go high enough to hit an overpass or something.

I think its supposed to be a one size fits all rule for any boom or attachment (catering to the most risk tolerant truck drivers). Not really a big deal to put those tie downs on (generally speaking).

Aaron Z

 

[Morning Wood]

Regarding the 4 point tie downs. I’ve towed a mini x a couple times for a friend locally. The machine has a tie down point in n the middle of it. If you were to put 2 chains on each tie down and run them to opposite corners on the Trailer does that satisfy the 4 point tie down requirement even though both chains originate from the same spot on the machine? Or do the chains need to be hooked on at different locations to satisfy the requirement?

 

[buckeyefarmer]

The guy that flew by me tonight doing about 90mph, towing a mini ex and small roller on his trailer, only had one chain across the back. Good thing it held as he weaved in and out of lanes, driving like he was in a sports car.

 

[Dftodd]

Came across a yahoo travelling across western Kansas into Colorado on a 200 mile stretch of interstate.

I had the cruise set on the truck at 78 mph. This guy blew past me in a Toyota Tundra, hauling one of the largest Kubota Skidsteers in a dump trailer. No weight distribution hitch. I checked the second or third time he blew passed me

I am kinda curious what he was running for trailer tires. Surprised they didn't spit off the tread in protest against the speed and weight over such a long distance.

 

[Norm W]

Looking at the "Wide turn", I wonder about the hitch. U-hauls have a 2" ball welded in place. Trailers that size have a 2-3/16" hitch. I doubt he could lift it off by hand, but that doesn't mean it won't come off. The list of "Bad Choices" is a greater number, than the drivers IQ would seem..

 

[aczlan]

Looking at the "Wide turn", I wonder about the hitch. U-hauls have a 2" ball welded in place. Trailers that size have a 2-3/16" hitch. I doubt he could lift it off by hand, but that doesn't mean it won't come off. The list of "Bad Choices" is a greater number, than the drivers IQ would seem..

Usually trailers like that have a 2 5/16" ball. Many of the newer uhaul trucks also have a 2" receiver and a 7pin "rv" type plug in the back bumper.

Aaron Z

 

[TMGT]

That is correct and is is overkill. I am all for securement safety but putting chains for the blade and ripper on my dozer makes no sense but I have to. They are not removable without taking out a ton of bolts and even if they magically decided to raise on their own they couldn't go high enough to hit anything. I have never seen or heard of a backhoe boom or loader raising on its own either for that matter but at least with those it is theoretically possible if they did they could go high enough to hit an overpass or something.

There was a truck (tractor) at my dad's work awhile ago that had the cab crushed in, backhoe boom on another truck swung into it on the road. Can't remember the details on how it happened but totalled the truck, driver survived.

Anything that can move I tie down now, I do agree it's rediculous to have to tie down solid attachments but it's too hard to specify individual applications so it falls under a blanket regulation.

 

[bdog]

Regarding the 4 point tie downs. I’ve towed a mini x a couple times for a friend locally. The machine has a tie down point in n the middle of it. If you were to put 2 chains on each tie down and run them to opposite corners on the Trailer does that satisfy the 4 point tie down requirement even though both chains originate from the same spot on the machine? Or do the chains need to be hooked on at different locations to satisfy the requirement?

This is the law:

§ 393.130 What are the rules for securing heavy vehicles, equipment and machinery?
(a)Applicability. The rules in this section apply to the transportation of heavy vehicles, equipment and machinery which operate on wheels or tracks, such as front end loaders, bulldozers, tractors, and power shovels and which individually weigh 4,536 kg (10,000 lb.) or more. Vehicles, equipment and machinery which is lighter than 4,536 kg (10,000 lb.) may also be secured in accordance with the provisions of this section, with § 393.128, or in accordance with the provisions of §§ 393.100 through 393.114.

(b)Preparation of equipment being transported.

(1) Accessory equipment, such as hydraulic shovels, must be completely lowered and secured to the vehicle.

(2) Articulated vehicles shall be restrained in a manner that prevents articulation while in transit.

(c)Securement of heavy vehicles, equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels.

(1) In addition to the requirements of paragraph (b) of this section, heavy equipment or machinery with crawler tracks or wheels must be restrained against movement in the lateral, forward, rearward, and vertical direction using a minimum of four tiedowns.

(2) Each of the tiedowns must be affixed as close as practicable to the front and rear of the vehicle, or mounting points on the vehicle that have been specifically designed for that purpose.

I think you would be fine. I doubt the mini is over 10k anyway. My 35G isn't over 10k.

 

[Morning Wood]

Actually it weighs right around 10k. It’s a Kubota Kx121 with steel tracks and cab.