STORAGE TANK SAFE FOR WATERING?

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J.meyers

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I just had a 140 gallon tank given to me and I am not sure if i can use it to water my newly planted fruit trees.
The tank is mfg by CIBA-GEIGY CORP , is labeled Bicep farm pak and was made in 1987.
the tank originally contained apestacide called BICEP 6L
there is about 10 gallons of white milky looking liquid in the tank.
the EPA registration number is 100-645/ EPA est 100La1.
Control number 55990

Can I was this out with fresh water and soap and use this for watering my trees?
 
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Personally, I would never use anything to water consumable plants/fruits etc. that once/still contained a synthetic pesticide.
 
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If you decide to try to use this tank, rinse it about 20 times thoroughly, and I mean thoroughly. Some pesticides/weed killers are very concentrated. Technically a pesticide is designed to only harm bugs, but they do adversely react with plant tissue on a regular basis. Read the labels on the backs of stuff in the pesticide/fertilizer aisle and you can scare your self silly.

Fill the tank with plain water, keep the vent open and then use it on your lawn in a marked out area. If the grass is still healthly after 20 days of daily application, then I would feel safe in using it on trees. Any bad reaction would show up within 3 weeks if applied to grass. Applying a bad chemical to trees can take a long time for it to show. By then, it is too late. Grass will grow back quickly. You don't want to lose years worth of valuable tree growth. If the tank is not safe to use, it's better to lose 200sf of grass.
 
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(metolachlor + atrazine)

Google it and find the answer.
Bob
 
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SOME pesticides will bond with plastic in time. No such thing as 100% nuetralizing them at that stage. Do a little research on that particular compound to see what manufacturer suggest. If it's not a problem, get "Neutra-Sol" or simular product (available @ TSC) for cleaning sprayer rigs. Mix and soak tank for a while. Repeat as you feel neccisary. Be cautious with residue still in tank. DON'T discard residue on ground for any reason, or in sewers unless you know it's 100% SAFE to do so.

It's technically ILLEGAL to use or handle ANY pesticde in a manner other than as recommended by it's manufacturer. That includes discarding left-overs. The ATF/FBI/CIA/KGB/EPA might not swing down from a black helicopter and start shooting, but if there's a problem later, you can be held accountable because of improper use of a restricted use pesticide.

OR...

Much simpler and SAFER (possibly even cheaper in the long run) to just get a new tank (Many size/shapes available through any good farm supply vendor)
 
   / STORAGE TANK SAFE FOR WATERING?
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thanks for the replies
 
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J.meyers said:
thanks for the replies


metolachlor + atrazine

Close the container and get it as far away from you and your family as possible. :)
 
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OK, now... let's not go crazy.... It's a legitimate, legal herbicide that is used on crops such as corn... applied at or below the label rate and in accordance with label directions, it behaves as advertised. And, that statement is it controls:

Annual grasses and broadleaf
weeds. Partial control of
seedling johnsongrass,
shattercane and volunteer
sorghum.

It's used in corn fields in the black land area here in central Texas. I'm a licensed pesticide applicator (actually do it only on my own property).

I haven't had a chance to look at your profile, j.meyers, but there are surely some fence lines or places where you wish to control such plants. This would be the place to spray the remainder of the material you have. It may not actually control any of the target species because the strength is unknown, but at least it is distributed and not dumped, existing strength, in one place or into a water source or waterway.

Then, the prescribed method is to triple rinse the container....so, you could fill it several times, realizing that the strength of remaining solution is now greatly diluted, and go back over the same areas. Do this 3 times and you will have the tank as clean as you will realistically be able to get it.

If the material was going to kill trees, then I would be seeing dead trees all along the fences where corn is planted... doesn't happen... instead, the fence rows grow up in robust trees of various kinds because of seeds being distributed by birds sitting on the wires.

Now, your fruit trees are newly planted... so not fruit bearing this year, perhaps not for a number of years. I believe you could use the well rinsed tank for watering them ... and believe that the benefit of the water applied with judicious timing, is better for the trees than letting them struggle without water. It will be years before you consume the fruit and the amount of herbicide remaining at that time will be truly infinitismal.

After all, it is applied to corn, which produces a veggy that we all eat... and is fed to cattle and poultry and hogs and....

So, we are now down to the personal beliefs you hold regarding "organic" food for yourself and others. If you are an "organic" believer, you have your answer since any chemical is forbidden. If not, then your pocket book controls what you do.... it's always possible to purchase a new tank..... but I don't think it's critical you do so.

You can see in the posts above that numerous others have opinions ranging from RUN to mine....
 
 

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