Subsoiling with a 25hp CUT Advice

[cphilip]

This one I was considering. Cheap... flexible because its the same frame they use for their "middle Buster" so could just change foot to have both. Not something Ill use very much at all either one of them. It claims to be designed for 18-25 HP tractors

King Kutter Sub-Soiler, Model# SUB | Category 1 Cultivators Tillers| Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[jeff9366]

Fred Cain is out of business.

I speculate everytfhingattachments.com purchased Fred Cain's tooling, as ETA produces several implements which are replicas of Fred Cain implements, specifically ETA's Subsoiler and screw adjust Disc Harrows.

 

[jeff9366]

This one I was considering. Cheap... flexible because its the same frame they use for their "middle Buster" so could just change foot to have both. Not something Ill use very much at all either one of them. It claims to be designed for 18-25 HP tractors

King Kutter Sub-Soiler, Model# SUB | Category 1 Cultivators Tillers| Northern Tool + Equipment

I do not believe the dimensions of the Kioti 2610 Three Point Hitch will allow it to raise and lower a standard size Subsoiler. You will neither be able to sink it fully, nor raised high enough to get the tip out of the ground. Nor will it operate a standard size Moldboard Plow.

Unless someone has produced something recently I am not familiar with, King Kutter is your only option. I had good service from two King Kutter yellow implements when I owned a Kubota 'B' size tractor, but not specifically a "red" King Kutter implement sized for sub-compact tractors. I believe you will be fine with the KK, just use it in MOIST soil. I doubt the KK will penetrate any deeper than your Fred Cain Field Cultivator.

Personally, I would use the Fred Cain Field Cultivator to open a channel, perhaps passing over ground twice, then use a narrow trenching spade to remove spoil, rather than have an implement around not used often.

 

[cphilip]

I think your right to some extent but not on lift height thats its limited. That one I linked is not standard either. However its no taller than this Fred Cain's tines are either and its lifting that thing free and clear by a very wide margin. That Sub Soiler I linked CUT designed size though.

The 2610 is driven by a detuned 1.6L motor. So its got some flywheel mass torque one would not expect.

The actual size of a 2610 is full Cat 1 and seems to handle this other stuff I had left over very well. Remember that the 2610 uses the larger frame like the 3510 and 4010. Its not a sub compact. Its just detuned and lowered motor specs to avoid Tier 4. The lift is quite high with that frame.

 

[jeff9366]

I think your right to some extent but not on lift height thats its limited.

The actual size of a 2610 is full Cat 1 and seems to handle this other stuff I had left over very well. Remember that the 2610 uses the larger frame like the 3510 and 4010. Its not a sub compact. Its just detuned and lowered motor specs to avoid Tier 4. The lift is quite high with that frame.

Before committing to a standard size Subsoiler purchase I would start a thread questioning Kioti 2610 owners on their experience with standard size Subsoilers. In my experience Subsoilers are one of the implements hardest to pair correctly with tractors.