Tree business must be good.

   / Tree business must be good. #41  
Last year we received quotes for trimming 10 willow oaks at the Optimist Part. The quotes included trimming, limb chipping and removal. Both estimates were $500 per tree. We went with the provider that could do it the quickest. The other guy was out over month and a half. The trimmer did exactly what he said he would do. Both guys have been in the business over 15 years and stay busy.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #42  
I had a similar experience when I needed a tree cut down. Couple places said they would be out for a quote on x date and x time. Never showed, never called. Couple other places came out when they said they would and gave me quotes.

I get they are busy and one tree might be less profit than going out where they can cut several. However if you are going to tell me you will be at my house Saturday at 3:30 p.m. Then have the courtesy to be there or call me and cancel.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #43  
Dad and I cut lots of trees years ago. We never climbed, but had some widow makers. Without research I bet tree work may be the most dangerous occupation. I know we had some close calls.
Climbing I think about a guy I knew who worked for the phone company. He climbed poles all the time. In the 80s he was working when one snapped. He was up, what...40 feet? Anyway the poor guy was a mess. He lived through it, months in hospital, all sorts of problems afterwards, almost blind, partial paralysis.
Recently I had to work on our 2 story roof. At 65 I have a body harness, ropes, etc.
I don't enjoy it (except the view!).
 
   / Tree business must be good. #44  
I had a similar experience when I needed a tree cut down. Couple places said they would be out for a quote on x date and x time. Never showed, never called. Couple other places came out when they said they would and gave me quotes.

I get they are busy and one tree might be less profit than going out where they can cut several. However if you are going to tell me you will be at my house Saturday at 3:30 p.m. Then have the courtesy to be there or call me and cancel.

I agree with all who expect a return call, text or smoke signal. Unfortunately that just isn't how things are these days. It's all kinds of trades, as stated earlier. At this point I consider myself lucky if people show -up- even if they're already working on a job for me. I've seen it recently, with my painter and carpenter. Hint of rain, no show. Close to w-end, no show. Or show up when they want with no notice, especially if they're looking for a check. They just randomly show up expecting me to write them a check, am, pm, Saturday morning. They think nothing of it, and expect it. I find it amazing, really. None wear watches, and never seem to know what time it is. But when it comes to billing me its full hours/# of men. They leave early for lunch and early at end of day. etc. And most are tattooed to the nines, smoke cigarettes, and spit on the ground as if my place is theirs. A whole bunch have been to drug rehab a number of times, have crashed their 'cars' a bunch of times, etc.
There's a shortage of good reliable workers in most every place I've lived or have friends living in. It's just the way things are, and it's not going to get better soon.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #45  
I agree with all who expect a return call, text or smoke signal. Unfortunately that just isn't how things are these days. It's all kinds of trades, as stated earlier. At this point I consider myself lucky if people show -up- even if they're already working on a job for me. I've seen it recently, with my painter and carpenter. Hint of rain, no show. Close to w-end, no show. Or show up when they want with no notice, especially if they're looking for a check. They just randomly show up expecting me to write them a check, am, pm, Saturday morning. They think nothing of it, and expect it. I find it amazing, really. None wear watches, and never seem to know what time it is. But when it comes to billing me its full hours/# of men. They leave early for lunch and early at end of day. etc. And most are tattooed to the nines, smoke cigarettes, and spit on the ground as if my place is theirs. A whole bunch have been to drug rehab a number of times, have crashed their 'cars' a bunch of times, etc.
There's a shortage of good reliable workers in most every place I've lived or have friends living in. It's just the way things are, and it's not going to get better soon.

You are right. I encourage young hard working people all the time to consider the trades. If you enjoy that work you can come out well ahead financially over going to college and racking up a lot of debt. By the time you get that better paying job, but have to pay off a ton of loans you really are no better off.

Of course if you don't enjoy working in the trades that is a different story.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #46  
Yup. Higher education is an investment that is continually giving worse and worse payback. The goal of University Educators has been shifting from giving children the knowledge too better themselves to giving them the ideals to make them politically correct voters and protestors. Kids don't need 18 years of diversity training at the expense of all else before becomming productive citezens. What you NEED to survive in today's society is all about money. You need to know a skill that will earn you money, and you need to know enough about economics that you can live within your means and make long term financial goals with that money you earned.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #47  
My experience varies greatly depending on location...

One Walnut Tree from a rental backyard cost $1800 and not a single tree guy would come out until I had the required city issued removal permit... which now cost $200 and requires about 6 weeks to process with the required mail out postcards and neighborhood postings and hearing...

So the moral of the story is you are wasting their time unless you have removal permit in hand.

In Washington State I had 9 trees taken out and several very large 160'+ for 2k... the crew was great... I told them to fit me in and they sent pictures and I sent the check... HIGHLY recommended by my very long time neighbors...

At Tahoe... it was similar to Oakland... no sense talking to tree guys without removal permit in hand... although the process experience was much better than Oakland... and Tahoe has some very stringent rules.

The Tree company in Tahoe was amazing... they own their own cranes and logging trucks... the Ponderosa Pines were huge with the smallest about 54 at BH...

The trees were taken down with crane and placed on logging trucks... the cost was $3400 and the company the best when it came to anything technical... these trees were within reaching distance of structures...

Right now I think all the trades are as busy as they want to be...
 
   / Tree business must be good. #48  
Scared of heights

Me too. But I forced my self to get into rock climbing and later got hired to climb trees for the USFS. As long as I was doing a lot of climbing I was ok. Each time tree climbing season started (we did other things in the middle of summer) I'd be a wreck for a week and fine after that.

I've used a local well respected tree service a couple times on my property. They're not cheap but they're good. And they work really hard. They only work on jobs where they can use a five man crew and chipper truck for a day. One arborist, the other guys are ground crew or feeding the chipper. For one job I had them leave about 10 cords of Eucalyptus rather than chip it to save me money and the spare guys cleared huge poison oak bushes off about 200' of old road. That was totally worth it.
 
   / Tree business must be good. #49  
When it comes to tree work, I guess I'm the luckiest one here. There is a large privately owned tree company 18 miles north of me. They travel the last 6 miles of gravel rather than the highway to get to my town. They go past my place morning and night, maybe 5 days a month during the summer. When I call them I say "if you have a short day in my town, stop at my place on your way home."

The morning work is done at market prices. On their way home they work for beer money. I've never paid more than $200 for tree removal.
 
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It's down!

Finally found an insured fella that took and finished the job.
Now, he showed up a day late for the estimate, and 6 hours late for the job - but he did it for a good price.
 

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