What can I plant by Hand?

   / What can I plant by Hand?
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jim:
I appreciate what you are trying to do. I am in SC too. I am not a farmer, but I am learning to be. I will tellyou what I have learned - first step is to send off a sample to Clemson for testing. They will tell you exactly how much fertilizer to put down per acre. work your butt off with the wrong ph and you got nothing. Clemson will tell you what you need (if anything) Maybe 50 pounds, more, or less. Just because that land was fallow doesn't mean it is ready to grow crops. the next most important thing I learned this year is soil compaction. (or avoiding compaction, that is) Compaction is a farmer's enemy. jEvenafter planting, you just lightly rake loose dirt over, you don't pack it in.

We plow with a chisel plow and then harrow with disk to break up the soil, loosen it up. If you could fluff it up into a powder that would be ideal. (Obviously tillers are perfect forthis role once you have plowed the new ground). But you don't need a tiller. Your new ground will need to be chisel plowed three ways, strait, 90degrees, then 45 degrees. then disk it to break up the clods. I saw your yellow scarifier, that will be perfect.

Having said all that, i realize your chinese job laid down on you, so instead of plowing the whole field now, can you rent a walk behind tiller and till a 12 inch wide strip for the length of the field, every 12 to 24 inches? If you can do that, then if you start this weekend, you have 45 days till Oct 15 and the first frost. You can get a butload of collards in, carrots, and a handful of other fall crops that may produce for you. seeing as how beans need 60 days roughly, I can't see you producing any now. But you may still try collards and carrots. and a little bit of miracel grow. im in saluda county. )</font>

Thank you... I see from this I will need one more piece of equipment this spring... a disc.

I have taken samples to Clemson University like you said with the soil and waiting for results. I also called the County Agriculture and they came out and are going to help me decide on what kind of terraces I need. They say I am late on getting help with seed and such to do this project but could help me next year.

I am trying to find a tiller. The one I had was stolen sometime ago. This happen during the three years I was out of town working and my family and I had relocated because of my Vice President position in two companies. When those companies sold controlling interest... I was laid off and my position filled by the person buying the companies out. We moved back here and it was all grown over. I have worked really hard getting it ready and I will do everything in my power to make this work. About renting a tiller... well the funds are low for right now. But it will pick up as soon as I get back to work. My project will continue... it will just not be as productive without a tractor. Thanks for the info and please email me sometime.

This worrying about this is keeping me up at nights. That is why I am up right now on the forum. Just can't sleep for worrying. Some how I have to make this work and help people. I have given my word and I intend to keep it even if it kills me. I absolutely refuse to give up. Lives depend on what I can do with my land.

I think maybe the dirt will be dry enough to till this weekend. We got quite a bit of rain the last two days. I was walking the field and picking up roots and rock this evening from where it was cleared. Still kinda wet. But it being open and if the sun and a breeze continues... it should dry out fairly quickly.

Jim
 
   / What can I plant by Hand? #12  
First of all, like many others I admire what you are trying to do. I wasunable to read your original posts because I amone of those still in the stone age, using a dial-up network. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
But I guess you've heard enough about that, already.

I'm not sure just what you're dealing with, but my garden may be at a similar stage as yours.
It's located in an old field which was reverting back to forestland when I purchased it five years ago. The first year I put my entire garden in using my backhoe; Sunday morning there were 30 foot tall trees growing; by Sunday evening I had a garden (albeit a small one) planted. Each year it gets a little better, but I still work the soil first using my backhoe then run my walk behind tiller through it.


Anyways, one trick I've learned is that rather than improving all my soil at once I can micromange where each plant is going. I.E. for each plant I remove soil from an area big enough for the root system to develop; place it into a wheelbarrow and mix organic matter in,(I usually use horse manure) then refill the hole. In essence you are making a pot for each plant; except the pot wall is the surrounding soil. Row crops are a little more time consuming, but the above can be adapted.
So far you've done it alone, but perhaps now it's trime for a little bit of help with your project. I'd start by talking to some of the people you are trying to help. Anyone who's used to working for a living will find it hard to take a handout; but it's different if they are helping themselves. (Plus there's some satisfaction in watching things grow.)

Also 4-H and boy scout groups might be sources of assistence; both planting and with seeds.

A bit of a stretch, perhaps; but I've seen where antique tractor clubs will sometimes go in and plow a field, just to be able to use their equipment.

Seems like the Extension service should be best suited to advise you what to plant; but cole products (Cabbage, brussel sprouts, broccoli, cauliflower) as well as leafy green vegetables should do well.

Good luck.
 
   / What can I plant by Hand? #13  
<font color="blue"> This worrying about this is keeping me up at nights. That is why I am up right now on the forum. Just can't sleep for worrying. </font>
Given in whose hands you've placed this project, all worry should be gone, right?

<font color="blue">Some how I have to make this work and help people. I have given my word and I intend to keep it even if it kills me. I absolutely refuse to give up. Lives depend on what I can do with my land. </font>
Lots of Is and a my in these sentences. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I'm not busting on you, just trying to encourage you to focus on who will make this project work.
 
   / What can I plant by Hand? #14  
Jim.. I def. understand worrying about how much you have to do.. worrying about trying to get projects done.

I get the same way sometimes.. My older brother came to visit me day at the farm and said.. "You have a 100 projects going on at the same time.. how do you keep track of it all?"

Lately I just try to take the mindset that I'm not superman.. and I can only do so much in a day. I work hard at my projects.. but try to enjoy the work.. being outside.. knowing that tomorrow is another day.

Be safe.. and good luck w/ all of your projects!
 
   / What can I plant by Hand?
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> This worrying about this is keeping me up at nights. That is why I am up right now on the forum. Just can't sleep for worrying. </font>
Given in whose hands you've placed this project, all worry should be gone, right?

<font color="blue">Some how I have to make this work and help people. I have given my word and I intend to keep it even if it kills me. I absolutely refuse to give up. Lives depend on what I can do with my land. </font>
Lots of Is and a my in these sentences. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I'm not busting on you, just trying to encourage you to focus on who will make this project work. )</font>


Thanks for the wake up call. Not I... GOD will make this work Maybe that is my problem. I will NOW put it all in my masters hands... GOD's Hands.

Thanks again!!

Jim & Family
 
   / What can I plant by Hand? #16  
Jim:

The first of my relative's to come to this country [ 110 years ago ] cut the trees with axes, grubbed out the stumps, broke the land with a one moldboard breaking plow pulled by 4 horses, built their houses and planted their crops. They were religious folks but figured the Great One helps those who help themselves!

Egon
 
   / What can I plant by Hand?
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Jim:

The first of my relative's to come to this country [ 110 years ago ] cut the trees with axes, grubbed out the stumps, broke the land with a one moldboard breaking plow pulled by 4 horses, built their houses and planted their crops. They were religious folks but figured the Great One helps those who help themselves!

Egon )</font>


That's right. However, I have to make a living as well. So doing everything by hand is Not an Option. I have to support my family while helping others or I will be in the same boat with the ones I am trying to Help.


That is why I am trying to do what I can. I am NOT looking for a HAND OUT... just a helping hand from others to help others in need.

Jim
 
   / What can I plant by Hand? #18  
I completely misunderstood as the title was what can I plant by hand.

Egon )</font>


That's right. However, I have to make a living as well. So doing everything by hand is Not an Option.


That is why I am trying to do what I can. I am NOT looking for a HAND OUT... just a helping hand from others to help others in need.

Jim

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   / What can I plant by Hand?
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( I completely misunderstood as the title was what can I plant by hand.

Egon )</font>


That's right. However, I have to make a living as well. So doing everything by hand is Not an Option.


That is why I am trying to do what I can. I am NOT looking for a HAND OUT... just a helping hand from others to help others in need.

Jim

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Sorry, sometimes I get off topic. What i was trying to do here was find a way to plant some things without actually plowing the soil as my tractor is out of commission right now. I think greens that would grow like collards and such would not need the soil broken as deep as root crops, like turnips. It wouldn't really be that bad if turnips didn't make as the greens from turnips would be as beneficial as the turnips if not more. Now carrots would be a different story... never heard of eating the tops of carrots. See this thread My Project Here Posted at TBN

This will let you know what I have to work with at the moment. Minus some rocks and roots I have removed by hand.

Jim
 
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"like turnips."

I overseeded turnips on a hay field last year.. very hard & rocky ground.. this was for forage.. but a lot of the turnips grew to softball size. I was feeding the steers FEL buckets full of turnips... they loved them. This year I should have the fencing done so they can actually forage for themselves.
 

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