Wheel spacers

[careyo63]

Some tractors which is like this old Yanmar. You can just reverse the wheels. The wheels are offset and doing that you gained several Inches on each side. Big difference and then no extra pressure on the Spindles. Org. setup for a Rice patty field and super narrow displacement and the offset is huge! Notorious for a roll over.

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[halfBaked2024]

Some tractors which is like this old Yanmar. You can just reverse the wheels. The wheels are offset and doing that you gained several Inches on each side. Big difference and then no extra pressure on the Spindles. Org. setup for a Rice patty field and super narrow displacement and the offset is huge! Notorious for a roll over.

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I think the OEM wheels on a TYM T574H come with the negative offset side set up this way (to maximize width at 63.8”). Although I don’t like moving the force on the rear wheels out from the mounted hub location using 3” spacers, I think I want maximum stability more.

 

[Flogger]

Wheel ballast is an integral required part of aerial forklifts. It's not for better traction either.

 

[careyo63]

Anti freeze in the rears of my 2000 Ford 2WD.. My Yanmar has huge lugs and aren't loaded. I use it for mowing FM.. The rear lugs on my hard clay soil isn't a problem as long as it not wet. Then I will leave tire lug tracks if it is. I noticed that decades ago!. When it's dry the lugs doesn't compress the grass. Only wheel marks are from the narrow front and mower wheels that are gone in no time. They don't wear! Org. Bridgestones with tubes. I had full tire reliners installed with new tubes from Gempler. Not the First complaint!! Done that in 2016...

 

[rScotty]

Wheel ballast is an integral required part of aerial forklifts. It's not for better traction either.

Nor are aerial forklifts used on slopes. So why would what they do or don't have any bearing on tractors?

 

[POGuy]

Thanks for the feedback, @rScotty and @RjCorazza - this forum has such helpful folks on it!

I am trying to quantify the benefit on different spacer widths and am working on the maths. All I see on the forums is “It’s so much better!”, but no-one has any tangible information like, “On a 15% cross slope, with 2” spacers, it will take X more amount of force to tip the tractor. With 6” spacers, it will take Y amount.” I know I’m weird, but knowing the numbers eases my lack of confidence.

I had them ballast the fronts and rears, giving me about 350# up front and 1,400# more in the rear - no brainer there. And I get that this helps incrementally keeping a lower center of gravity. But, how much is actually gained from 2” spacers? I see the 6% increase in width adding to the leveraged length. But monetary outlay being similar, is it worth risking the perceived mechanical strain on the axles and getting 6” for 18% increase in leverage length?

I know a dork like me has done the calculations, I just can’t find it. If I end up creating it, I will share it. This is the closest thing I found and plan on starting here:

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My impatient self is saying, “Well, heck man… just get the 4” set then.”

Spacers are great but the dealer is correct in being reluctant to install them. They put significant loads on parts that may not be spec'd to handle them, and when it fails, who is left holding the bag?

 

[Gord Baker]

I ordered my first tractor (TYM T574H) yesterday and am wondering if anyone dealing with hilly terrain has put spacers on to enhance stability. If so, what size?

My dealer seems reluctant to recommend them, but I’d like to have them put on before they fill the tires if I decide to pull the trigger.

If you feel that you need them to reduce tipping forget it.
They won't help enough to save you.
Keep the bucket or other attachments as low as possible if driving over hilly terrain or just keep off of it if you cannot traverse it up and down.

 

[Gord Baker]

We've had this discussion many times here. I believe spaced front tires do help with stability. The front axle pivots until it hits the stops. If the tires are spaced out they hit the stops sooner. Of course, to each their own.

Once you start going over wider spaced front wheels will NOT save you.
Axle pivots.

 

[Gord Baker]

Thanks for the feedback, @rScotty and @RjCorazza - this forum has such helpful folks on it!

I am trying to quantify the benefit on different spacer widths and am working on the maths. All I see on the forums is “It’s so much better!”, but no-one has any tangible information like, “On a 15% cross slope, with 2” spacers, it will take X more amount of force to tip the tractor. With 6” spacers, it will take Y amount.” I know I’m weird, but knowing the numbers eases my lack of confidence.

I had them ballast the fronts and rears, giving me about 350# up front and 1,400# more in the rear - no brainer there. And I get that this helps incrementally keeping a lower center of gravity. But, how much is actually gained from 2” spacers? I see the 6% increase in width adding to the leveraged length. But monetary outlay being similar, is it worth risking the perceived mechanical strain on the axles and getting 6” for 18% increase in leverage length?

I know a dork like me has done the calculations, I just can’t find it. If I end up creating it, I will share it. This is the closest thing I found and plan on starting here:

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My impatient self is saying, “Well, heck man… just get the 4” set then.”

Nice Drawing. Forget spacers and go Up and Down hills/slopes, or keep off them

 

[scootr]

Once you start going over wider spaced front wheels will NOT save you.
Axle pivots.

Thank you for that but you misunderstand my point.
I am not at all saying front wheel spacers prevent roll overs.