Rat, I may have posted this before, but when I was helping my neighbor cutting and baling hay, he had 1100 acres of Corp of Engineers land leased for 4 years around the lake; part was heavily wooded, some was farmland before the government took it to build the lake, and there were both dirt and asphalt roads in different places, but all roads had been blocked with heavy metal gates. We once finished baling about 7 miles from the house, and he and his wife were going to Tennessee for a week early the next day. Since we would be using that old Oliver to get the bales out of the field when he got back from Tennessee, he decided to just hide the tractor deep in the woods and leave it there. A couple of days later, I noticed someone had driven it about a mile up to one of the gates, rammed the gate with it, but neither the gate nor the chain had broken, just bent the gate, then ran the tractor into the borrow ditch and left it. I had keys to the gates but didn't have the key for the tractor. I also didn't have a screwdriver with me, but found that the blade on my nail clippers worked just fine and I drove the tractor to a safe location. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif