Working on tractor with loader up...do you?

[Redbug]

At work, we are taught that when working in a condition that is unsafe we either... 1. Do not continue the work in an unsafe manner... 2. Engineer a safer way to continue the work, either through certain safe practices/procedures or using physical means of safety such as barriers, shields, etc. But, why take chances? I know some people just HAVE to jump out of a perfectly safe plane for the fun of it...but...in most cases Darwin's Law sooner or later, (depending upon the odds), will weed out the rest.

So...that means using pipe sections with tie wraps on the cylinders as stops, a brace of some sort or some other method. Here's another method...

 

[Defective]

Here's another method...

Almost...

I'd chalk the wheels.

 

[md03]

Then you might have a problem.... MY opinion is that it is safe. I dont make fun of anyone that thinks it is not safe to work under raised loader booms, it's your assumption, because i reply to people agreeing that i am an idiot for doing so...

I did not say it is o.k. to work unsafe. My conception of safe working practice is just a little different than yours, I dont have any problems with that at all, but it seems you do....

I wonder if you'd be the one to initiate a lawsuit against the manufacturer when the hydraulics eventually fail...

 

[Renze]

I wonder if you'd be the one to initiate a lawsuit against the manufacturer when the hydraulics eventually fail...

No, actually i'd be the one that builds his own loader from scratch....
So i'm not really the type for lawsuits...

 

[CDsdad]

Renze, using your logic, I assume you would have no problem with your children, grandchildren, or whatever child you may have playing under a raised loader. Since it is safe (according to you) to work under it should be more than OK for YOUR child to play under it. Stay in Holland, we got some idiots to send you so you won't be lonely.

 

[mwark]

In all fairness.. i don't think anyone disagrees with you that the liklyhood of a failure is very remote.. it's just that no one wants to take the chance when it is so easy to get mitigate the danger.. Perhaps if it was a different set of circumstances.. then opinions may be different.. however.. for this set of circumstances.. it's pretty apparrent what the majority is thinking.

good luck

Soundguy

I have read this entire post and after reading this the penny dropped for me. I think I understand the point that Renze is trying to make.
I wonder how many of us that are having an almost religious reaction to “safety” issues like working under an unsupported loader, do thing like smoke cigs, drive a car without a seat belt, fishing with no life jacket, are 20 of more pounds over weight, drink more than two adult beverages a day.
With out question these activities and many more like them are going to do much more harm too many more to our members than working under an unsupported loader.

I’ll continue to eat right not smoke wear my seat belt and support my loader.:

 

[Soundguy]

Maybee less than you think.

I don't smoke, I wear a seatbelt in any vehicle equipped with one, If I'm on a boat I'm wearing a flotation vest, I'm at my ideal weight, and drink only a couple adult beverages a year...

As freud would say.. sometimes a cigar is a cigar. regardles sof the fact that smoking IS bad for you.. standing under an unsuported loader is STILL unsafe.

Soundguy

 

[mwark]

Maybee less than you think.


Soundguy

Maybe more than you think...

This is "The Worlds Largest Tractor Community" with over 30,000 members. That's a city in Maine. The point is that the percentage of members that smoke or ride a motor cycles will be similar to the general population. If you are correct in your assertion that “that the likelihood of a failure is very remote..” and I agree with you it is. There is no reason for any members to criticize another member for behavior were the likelihood of injury far less than activities that many of us participate in everyday.

Like I said, I support my FEL before going under it but he’s not an idiot because he doesn’t and I’m certainly not going to say to him “Stay in Holland, we got some idiots to send you so you won't be lonely”.

 

[gemini5362]

I agree with soundguy there might be less than you think. I am overweight by about 30 pounds, I dont drink adult beverages, (does Dr. Pepper count as an adult beverage ?) , I dont smoke, I always were a life vest, I wear my seat belt ( Buckle up, It's the law) I do ride a motorcycle but you will never see me get on any forum and say it is not extremely dangerous. That is where the difference I feel at least for me seems to be. I dont care if he or anyone else works under there loader unsupported. Where my problem is when someone does that and tries to say it is ok because it is not unsafe. I do several things that are not safe, I ride my bike, I scuba dive, I have been known to hang glide, and I argue with my wife. Those are all unsafe things to do and I will freely admit that they are unsafe. It is my choice to do them and take my risks. I would feel that I was doing other people who read a forum for information a terrible disservice if I was to say yeah go ahead and go hang glideing it is not unsafe I do it all the time. We are all responsible for our actions It is ok if we want to take risks. I do not feel it is ok to encourage others to do so.

 

[gemini5362]

Maybee less than you think.

I don't smoke, I wear a seatbelt in any vehicle equipped with one, If I'm on a boat I'm wearing a flotation vest, I'm at my ideal weight, and drink only a couple adult beverages a year...

As freud would say.. sometimes a cigar is a cigar. regardles sof the fact that smoking IS bad for you.. standing under an unsuported loader is STILL unsafe.

Soundguy

Hmm soundguy do you always wear your seatbelt when you are on your tractor ?