DIY replacing worn out gauge wheel assemblies Kubota F series

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johncar

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Just for anyone who is interested in this type of DIY thing.
Having bought a second hand ex govt F3680 a couple of months back, been going over the external parts that have significant wear. My place is not a nice flat lawn but more like a cow paddock so the gauge wheels will cop plenty of work!!
So this weeks project was to repair/replace the gauge wheel holder/assemblies and axles to something more durable.
Because there are no generic parts on these things I needed to either buy it all from Kubota at about $500 for spindles, bushes, axles etc. but because partly due to the cost and the wearing design, I decided to make or at least adapt other cheaper generic parts to make my own and hopefully much stronger and almost maintenance free.

The originals are high maintenance and relatively high wearing pin /bush style and I wanted sealed ball or roller bearing so I decided to try use small trailer type hubs for the pivots and stub axles to replace the spindles. So the small 4 stud hubs gave me a completely sealed and fully adjustable dual tapered roller bearing setup.

To match the original mower deck mounts the 10" x 1 1/2" stub axles had to be machined down in a lathe to 32mm the full length stopping at the seal machining. Then drilled and tapped so that they can be solidly secured to the mower deck mounts. You could still install multiple height holes but I only use the one height of about 90mm (3 1/2") but I can still move it an inch or so either way up or down If I needed to. If you wanted a real low cut, this design would limit you to about 60mm or 2 1/2" minimum cutting height.

For the stirrup section that takes the wheel I just fabricated it out of some flat steel, sides: 8mm x 75mm (5/16" x 3")
, top: 8mm x 100mm x 122mm and replicated the same angles etc as the originals. Drill the top to take the hub and legs to take the wheel.
Instead of the kubota axles I used a 19mm high tensile bolt with nyloc nut which is cheap and easily replaced. It has an advantage of being able to adjust minimal side play to the wheel and also help to keep dirt out of the wheels unsealed bearings.

So for anyone who would like to do such a thing, not a lot of difficult engineering required, easy enough to do if you can cut, weld and drill the steel. if you don't have access to a lathe or a friend with one it shouldn't cost much to have it done at an engineering shop. I have my own tools so it was fairly quick and easy for me.
I didn't worry about the anti spin indent thing that the originals have as I don't believe it will be needed with this setup. Haven't done any mowing with them yet but driving around they seem to work very smoothly. Will give an update after a bit of mowing time.

The cost of all the new parts was about $110 and about 10 hours my own time.
The original parts can still go back on at any time if ever required as none of that was altered at all.

Anyway I will try and attach some pics as they tell a better story.

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Very nice write up, I hope it works better than stock!

Thanks.
 
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I have replaced a few wheels/tires and rims over the years due to the entire shaft dropping off and running over them. The pins holding the shaft on was breaking under the stress and when a dip was ran over the entire shaft would fall off. I replaced the locking pin with hardened steel bolts with nuts and no problem since.
I mow thru ditches and some really rough areas. Even mow some old logging trails and water gulled ruts. I have rolled the tires loose from the rims a few times and currently one of my tires is rolling with no air and hasn't had air in quite awhile. Does show a bit of not level cutting pattern. There are some older posts with part numbers for replacement tires here in the lawn and garden section from a year or so ago. You may want to look them up to add to your reinforced units.
Was at Barlows day before yesterday and a man was there to pick up my first F model I bought in 2008 and had traded to Barlows a few months ago. Talked with him about it for awhile. It looked good and clean but he told me he was going to keep it clean and waxed. Went to Barbourville, Ky.
 
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Thanks JOHNTHOMAS,
Yes I expect that the weak link will now be the wheels and tires and I have seen them rolled off as you say on a friends machine.
He has replaced his with a solid tire replacement (no air or tube to worry about) which seem to be good so far. I will track down your older posts as well.
Good to hear your first F is going to a good home to be looked after..
I try and take good care of my gear although possibly not waxed, but they still have to work hard around here to earn their keep.
 
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Nice work sir!
 
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Old thread I know :

I’ve ordered two front tire & wheel assembly’s like on my ZD1511 for the front of the F3710 72 front deck & raising the frame rails out front.

I post pix as I progress along with it.

Thanks for the trailer spindle idea @johncar (y)
 
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I have repeatedly said the F series mowers lack in the running gear department.
Sad you have to spend that kind of coin and not get proper wheels/tires.

Rest of the F is pretty darn good.
 
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I guess Kubota doesn’t think customers should use the F on rough ground :rolleyes:
Or they would put much bigger front deck tires in their machines.
 
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I guess Kubota doesn’t think customers should use the F on rough ground :rolleyes:
Or they would put much bigger front deck tires in their machines.

And if you look at comparable models, they have larger wheels/tires.
 
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Does these stock swivel yokes have bushings OR bearings ?

I understand the bolt & jam nut keeping them from coming apart & the grease fitting

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