Help! going nuts with conflicting advice!!

[Rustyiron]

If you don't want conflicting advise, get advise from only one person, and don't ask him the same question more than once!

:laughing:I like that!

 

[hawkeye08]

Most larger disks do not use the 3pt to lift, they pull with the drawbar (that big chunk of steel sticking out under the back of the tractor with a couple large holes in it). They have some wheels that lower with hydraulic cylinder. When the wheels go down, they lift the disk. They are also used to control depth of disk when you don't want it working as deep as it can (maybe the tractor is smaller than the disk needs, etc).

 

[dmiletich]

Magicheater, -sorry, reeses4300 and PossumHound are right-- I meant the generic for Roundup--glyphosate.
As to the rest of the responses, thanks!! I don't know whether the dealer was trying to play me for a sucker or not-- but it was not a happy afternoon-- you guys have been a real relief.
A couple other questions:
There's a big auction coming up in NY in about a week (the biggest auction of used farm equipment in NY) which takes place right after the Empire Days Farm Show-- I'll be looking there for a good disc and plow--
--Can you guys give me any pointers on what to look for in the used equipment so I have less repairing to do? I'm guessing these discs have bearings and seals-- and a hydralic ram to lift it with the 3pt lift-- is this correct??
What else should I be looking for so I won't end up with a costly piece of junk iron?
thanks,
Bob

If you are going to get a 3 point disk, your tractor has the hydraulics to lift it. The only time you would need hydraulics is if it is a pull behind disk and has wheels, or hydraulics to open and close the disk.

 

[RickB]

If you are going to get a 3 point disk, your tractor has the hydraulics to lift it. The only time you would need hydraulics is if it is a pull behind disk and has wheels, or hydraulics to open and close the disk.

Which only applies to 99.7% of the disc harrows made in North America since 1955.

 

[Bob Vanderlinde]

If you don't want conflicting advise, get advise from only one person, and don't ask him the same question more than once!

Rick B, if you're referring to " asking the same question twice"-- my double post on this was just an honest mistake on my part-I'm not trying to be devious at all.
As for only getting advice from one person-- I don't believe that for a second.
For example, I've seen many conflicting opinions about chemicals in farming on this forum. I happen to want to do whatever will improve my acre yield- but if I happen to get only a response from an organic farmer--you get the idea.

 

[Soundguy]

Rick is refering to the fact that when asking for an opinion on an open forum like this, you will get X+1 opinions for every X members.

it's just human nature.

And then he followed that up with the 'twice' comment. IE.. ask a man his opinion.. then ask it again.. and you are likely to get 2 opinions.

if you don't believe either of those.. you have been around here long enough..

soundguy

 

[Farmwithjunk]

You'll get varied advice based on the fact that there are literally THOUSANDS of different approaches to the same problem. Climate conditions vary. Soil conditions vary. Soil structure varies wildly from location to location. Individual crop requirements vary. And crop requirements vary with each hybrid with-in a crop species. Every farmer has their own "systems approach" to how they deal with the variety of conditions, based on their upbringing, their personal experiences, their education, the region they live in, and "peer pressure". If you can find any two farmers in the US that have the same exact opinions on every step of the profession, PLEASE let me know who they are. I'm 64, was raised on a farm, and have been a farmer myself all these years. I've yet to meet two farmers that agree 100% on ANYTHING....Much less everything....lol!

I know of many a farmer who has several different types of equipment so as to be able to try different strategies during a given season. We have no clue as to what the coming year holds. Given that, we have no idea going in, which techniques will be the big winner. EVer hear the old expression "Never put all your eggs in one basket"? Many farmers allow themselves several "baskets" to give them more of a chance of hitting the target.

All the above is why there are multitudes of brands and types of equipment, multitudes of colleges and universities offering crop and soil science programs, hundreds of different marketing strategies, and why some farmers succeed and other fail. There are NO absolutes, and there are millions of choices to make. If it were easy, everyone would be doing it........

JMHO, and most likely different from the next one you'll get

 

[Bob Vanderlinde]

Farmwithjunk, and the other above posts--
You have been very helpful in my thinking about all this-- I have a science background, so, although I have always known the weather was huge in farming, I guess I figurespd (wrongly), that there was enough science that the advice I would be getting, as I try to get going in farming, would be pretty much the same from different people. Guess I'll just jump in- but asking questions from experienced people such as yourself still seems reasonable to me. Guess I still believe the only dumb question is the one never asked.
Thanks to all.
Bob

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Farmwithjunk, and the other above posts--
You have been very helpful in my thinking about all this-- I have a science background, so, although I have always known the weather was huge in farming, I guess I figurespd (wrongly), that there was enough science that the advice I would be getting, as I try to get going in farming, would be pretty much the same from different people. Guess I'll just jump in- but asking questions from experienced people such as yourself still seems reasonable to me. Guess I still believe the only dumb question is the one never asked.
Thanks to all.
Bob

I'm 4 credits shy of earning a Phd in soil and crop science. The MORE I learn about the science of farming, the more I'm convinced it's more an art than a science. Way too many variables to ever draw a line in the sand as to the use of any single approach. My years in farming have convinced me the best way to make most decisions is to close my eyes and throw a dart at the dartboard.....At least that technique is no more INaccurate than solid science and logic....

 

[Soundguy]

no dumb questions. just telling you whyt you are getting conflicting advice.

everybody has a different idea how to do it. some of them are even correct too! ( even when totally different! )

soundguy