About the Australian gun buyback- what was the payout per gun?
Was it the average price of an old used gun (real value) or was it a a relatively large amount (at least two or three times the actual value)?
Was it the same payout for a cheap mass produced well worn semiauto .22 rimfire rifle as a mint condition high end .223 semiauto rifle? I am just curious about how the payment system worked.
Could you gun advocates clarify something for me?
To my understanding, there is nowhere else in the civilized world than the US that has such lax and open-ended gun (un)regulation as "permitted" by your beloved 2nd Amendment and at the same time there is nowhere else in the civilized world than the US that has mass shootings that happen in the frequency that they do in the US?
At some point, shouldn't reason prevail over the "my stick is bigger than your stick"?
Living in Canada, I have ZERO worries about not having a gun in my house.
Australia's tougher gun laws are a very good thing in my opinion.
(1) whether we need the right to have 100 shot magazines, and (2) loopholes in background checks prior to gun purchase. I conceive no threat to my view of guns by restriction of magazines to ? (10-20, whatever - my rifles and shotguns hold no more than 3, and pistols no more than 10). .
So, the Australian government didn't "confiscate your guns". That's no surprise, nor is the unfortunately large number in the US who believe such is likely to happen here......yeah, right, and at an inconvenient time like just before the UN troops invade. Anyhow, it's highly unlikely a "guns, or no guns" question will seriously be debated before Congress in our lifetimes (yup, some have or will submit legislation on this issue, but no way it gets anywhere). The process of nullifying or changing a constitutional amendment has made the occurence rare.
Anyhow, as stated by others, guns are in the fabric of a substantial portion of our society, and that's it, period. However, folks are now in good faith debating what constitutes our 2nd amendment rights versus those of public good/safety. In the spirit of full disclosure, sitting above me on a rack right now are the rifles of my great grandfather (single shot 45-70), grandfather (30-40 lever action), and father (30-30 lever action). No way I'd part with those elements of my history, and on a broader sense, our nation's history. However, the issues as I see them are not whether we have the right to have a gun, or many guns, but (1) whether we need the right to have 100 shot magazines, and(2) loopholes in background checks prior to gun purchase. I conceive no threat to my view of guns by restriction of magazines to ? (10-20, whatever - my rifles and shotguns hold no more than 3, and pistols no more than 10). Likewise I have no issue with a background check re. a criminal record or a mental disorder for every gun purchaser - gun show, Walmart, wherever. Objecting to those measures has put a decent organization, the NRA, cross-ways to the preponderance of Americans. That is indeed unfortunate, and it may well come back to haunt that organization (of which I am a member).
No not alone.....actually can only think of one use for an automatic or semi automatic rifle.......to shoot someone......you can hunt control vermin etc with a bolt action gun.
As soon as you wrote "need", you lost the argument.
I don't need anyone telling me what I need...nor do you (when those PETA folks ban your hunting...and they want to, don't they?)
If you really a member of the NRA (which I doubt), you'd know we gun owners need to stick together as a united front. Doesn't sound like you're willing to stick up for your rights...
...........All Automatic/self loading rifles are illegal. (That pretty well rules out all the assault style weapons).
Manual reload rifles are legal. So anyone who wants a rifle for vermin, roo shooting, or personal protection etc can actually have a gun if they want one.
Australia's tougher gun laws are a very good thing in my opinion.