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Are your trespassers nosy Looky Lou's

Yes, so far we haven't had and damage or losses but now that we have evidence of trespassers, I think it is a good time to beef up security by moving cameras to better locations and finding a better lock for our sea container and stop in for security check more frequently.
Anyone with advice on lock systems or other methods of securing our property and materials please let us know.
Thanks
Sam

A few night shots
 
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Yes, so far we haven't had and damage or losses but now that we have evidence of trespassers, I think it is a good time to beef up security by moving cameras to better locations and finding a better lock for our sea container and stop in for security check more frequently.
Anyone with advice on lock systems or other methods of securing our property and materials please let us know.
Thanks
Sam

A few night shots

I have two containers and they are locked with well protected discus locks. It would take massive force to defeat them. Unfortunately, anyone with a Makita 4 inch cordless grinder could make their own big door in the side of a container in a few minutes. A small set of O-A bottles like the HVAC guys use with a little cutting torch could get them access in a minute.

An alarm system can be set up to alert you via cell phone to activity at our site and you can view the video remotely to see if it is wild critters or thieves or looky lous if you can get a phone line to the site or if you have WIFI capability there. Video surveillance software is available that monitors a video picture from inexpensive cameras for changes that meet your detection criteria. A steady or extremely slowly changing picture does not set off the system but let someone walk through the picture and it triggers. You can be notified by cell phone. If you can get a phone connection you can be notified by email and can remotely view the video to see who or what is loose on your property.

Construction sites in general are the epitome of attractive nuisances and are at least targets for looky lous in general if not thieves in particular. People are drawn to them and your site, since it is NON-STANDARD is a powerful attention getter.

I don't feel entirely comfortable suggesting booby traps as nthings tend to get out of control BUT... I once combined the following easily obtained equipment into a deterrent system that trained folks to keep their dogs out of my front yard and the postmen to not traverse the middle of the lawn instead of the sidewalk.

One each cheap Infra-Red motion detecting security light, one rain bird sprinkler, a garden hose, and the water control solenoid valve from a junked dishwasher. You let the IR detector turn on the water valve instead of a light bulb. Set the security light unit into the TEST position so that the photo cell is disabled and the unit will activate during daylight or night hours.

In the test position these units will typically turn on until motion is no longer detected and then shut off about 10 seconds later. This will not waste much water, or whatever it is that is in the hose. If you don't have water under pressure available a bladder tank such as you use on a well or other pressure vessel and a tank for compressed air will git 'er done.

There are sites that sell booby traps to which you fit trip wires to fire the blank 12 ga shotgun shell you load them with. handy if there is anyone to respond to the noise, otherwise it is interesting to speculate as to the effect but... A few years ago these were about $2.50 each and of course are re-loadable.

I personally like pyrotechnics and my personal FAV is charges to disperse strong dye or paint onto vehicles or personnel but you may not want to start a war with some relatively innocent looky lous just attracted to a non standard and interesting construction site. They might be some of your neighbors to be.

Pat
 
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I have a question? What should one do if your cameras identify trespassers? We don't know who they are yet but I think we should be careful not to make matters worse.

We are the last house on the road so we get our fair share of people turning around given our distance from the road. Usually once or twice a month max.

Unless you invest in a majorly expensive security system, your ability to identify license plates and faces will be pretty restricted unless they come very close to the camera. Most consumer security cameras are 480 lines of interlaced resolution. Not much to blow up when looking for a license plate.

We just keep a space on our hard drive and collect images. If a pattern would be detected I would send it ASAP to the cops. From what I have gathered there is good chance it is a repeat offender. Trespassing can be prosecuted, but good luck. Best you can usually get is a warning, which might lead to further vandalism but usually leads to being left alone.

We caught one guy with our system, and that person was an employee of a contractor who was working on our site. Cops took the images to the contractor, and he gave the name and address of the person in question. We stayed WAY out of the deal, let the cops and contractor deal with it. We wanted to get more involved but the cops made it clear our involvement would muddy the waters.

One thing, I think you have a major gate, if it has a clearly marked no trespassing sign I am quite surprised you have anyone coming up to the place at all.

Carl
 
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Thanks for sharing you experience. We have been taking sometime to train and sight-in our weapons hoping any nosy neighbors who may have trespassed previously will resist temptation thinking these people have weapons and no trespassing signs. We have made a few other changes.

We gave up on going any further west in our first septic trench. The super large stone won this battle. So far we got one hundred and twelve feet. Since the first ditch my never be used we will carry the additional one hundred and fifty eight feet on the second ditch. We have been working clearing trees and moving rocks from the piles to the banks of our culvert pipe and ditch.
 
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Ouch. Your stone encounter brings back memories. I was trying to excavate an "intercepting" trench parallel to and up slope from the basement excavation about 8-10 feet. It needed to be about 12 ft deep and to continue off to the west past the immediate home site so a pipe placed in it could drain to daylight at a creek bank. Rock stopped progress with a backhoe. Carbide bits in hammer drills was just too slow so I rented a tow behind gasoline driven compressor and 98 lb jack hammer. That helped but I eventually settled for a few inches less depth than I wanted. Luckily I could also get the other end of the trench to drain via a different path.

The perforated drain pipes in this trench plus the ones surrounding the basement foundation on both the inside and outside have drained clear water 24-7 even during the record drought for Oklahoma of a few years ago. I suppose I should be a little anxious about having the ground water level on the outside of my basement walls at about 5 ft above the interior floor level but so far so good, not a drop of leakage and the moisture tests made by taping plastic over the floor and exterior walls show no evidence of moisture, not even a slight darkening of the concrete where it is covered.

Pat
 
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I took off Friday afternoon to go to Shawnee Oklahoma to pick up our General Plastics under slab HVAC duct system. We were saving a six hundred dollar freight charge. We were only a hundred and thirty miles one way. I was surprised about the company. They basically are a reseller for the pipe and they make the black Max line on components. After getting there we found they had screwed up our order. The three customs parts were wrong. During the order process they emailed me a form and I added the dimensioning and email it back. I am hoping they will ship the screwed up part of the order at their cost but I will make a second trip if needed.
 
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Today we all got a late start and it was kind of cold. We did manage to shoot the laser and cut a slope from the garage into the great room for a 3" French drain conduit, 3" city water line conduit and a 4" hydronic wood stove conduit loop. This under slab work is serious business. So many connections, going so many places and I know I have made this very complicated but I wouldn't have it any other way. This house has many features and possibilities. I am roughing in things that are for future use or not at all. I see it this way, when the rest of the world is struggling for the very basics like water, heat and air conditioning, electricity and a safe secure place from tornados and earth quakes we will be ready.
 
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Thinking ahead has become a rare activity but you may see an excellent return on your investment.

Just curious, what Shawnee outfit are you getting your stuff from? I get to Shawnee an average of at least once a week and frequently more often and it is only about 30 miles for me. If something comes up such that "eyes on site" would save you your long trip, I could check something out for you.

PM me for info if interested.

Pat
 
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As far as security -
Lots of web cams fitted with remote control weapons, something like high power squirt guns with a dye, or a firehose. Nothing that would cause much damage. Or dogs with a remote cage release. Then let select people (like some of us TBN'rs) monitor the web cams and fire the weapons.

Now that would be a thread!
 
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Thinking ahead has become a rare activity but you may see an excellent return on your investment.

Just curious, what Shawnee outfit are you getting your stuff from? I get to Shawnee an average of at least once a week and frequently more often and it is only about 30 miles for me. If something comes up such that "eyes on site" would save you your long trip, I could check something out for you.

PM me for info if interested.

Pat

General Plastics at 3500 north Harrison. I am using them because other systems simply rust and create unhealthy air quality.
 

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