DanR67
Silver Member
Hi folks,
I originally posted in lildozers' "2210 or BX2230" thread - because I felt I had similar needs - but GregJ suggested that I start a new thread - so here I am! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
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I've been thinking about getting a CUT for several years - even visited a few local dealers and picked up brochures - but any discussion with my wife would quickly (usually before I finished my first sentence! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) end in NO!
However, time goes on...people change...my wife turned 40...and suddenly she starts talking about "how much work we have..." and "we're not getting any younger..." - so now we're looking for a compact tractor! Woohoo! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So I've been lurking around TBN for the past few weeks - great site btw - and am posting to get a bit of feedback - trying to decide between a JD 2210 and Kubota B7500
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First my needs / situation:
> 11 acres - 7 wooded / 4 cleared / 2 - 3 mowed (fairly flat)
> need to replace an old 38" Sears riding mower this year
> plan on landscaping @ 1 additional acre in upcoming years (somewhat rocky - see "stone walls" below - but otherwise fairly flat)
> moving between 2-4 12-wheeler loads of gravel and *graded base* for driveway extension (@ 150 ft) & landscaping / pathways
> Yearly wood pellet (on 1 ton pallets) handling (I don't expect to move full tons at once!) - between 10-20 tons / year
> Yearly leaf / brush pickup
> Possible removal of existing asphalt driveway & replace with gravel (@ 200' overall length / incl. oval-shaped turn around)
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So - we've visited the local JD & Kubota dealers.....and found there's a *barely used* (41 hours) JD 2210 with FEL available for @ $10,500 - toss in a 54" MMM and taxes - call it $13K
But....
I am leaning more towards a Kubota B7500 *leftover* (new) - or (insert miracle of choice here) - a new B7610. The B7500 would come in just under $16K - but the "Approval Committee" is not happy because of the $3K diff. However the B7500 would include a used bagger with the MMM setup - nice for the fall cleanup....
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Now, when I price "new vs new" - then we have a real close matchup: $15.3K for the JD 2210 and @ $16K for the K B7500 - a difference of only $700.
I've attached a worksheet (Adobe PDF format) showing the size / features / price between the following CUT models:
John Deere 2210 / 4110
Kubota B7500 / B7510 / B7610
New Holland TC24
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My arguments in favor of the Kubota are:
- longer warranty (3 vs 2 year)
- (somewhat) larger loader capacity (770 vs 620 # at pivot)
- higher total hydraulic flow (7.0 vs. 5.5 gpm)
- higher ground clearance (12.0 vs 7.7 in)
- backhoe capable in the future if needed
Just *dreaming* aloud - but a new B7610 (@ $17.2K) vs new JD2210 is only ~ $1800 difference - but the B7610 has the next bigger FEL - @ 925 # at pivot - which would, in my opinion - cover 90+% of my loader needs.
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My primary concern with the JD 2210 is the FEL loader cap - I don't mind "making more trips" - but if I come across a good sized rock - I'd prefer the extra muscle on hand - rather than having to rent a TLB. This is New England - our stone walls didn't fall from the sky.... I'm also a little concerned with the lower ground clearance on the 2210.
I also realize that most of my *needs* will likely take place in the first few years of ownership (favoring Kubota w 3 yr warranty) - and that if I *only* had mowing to do, with some scattered FEL work - I wouldn't even be asking! I'd have the JD 2210 in my garage already!
I've rented a decent sized JD (@ 40 HP?) TLB twice in the past: 1) to spread gravel around our pool and did some rock landscaping with the backhoe and 2) put in @ 120' access road using graded base.
This chewed up the lawn fairly well in a few spots - the weight + the Ag tires - so I know I want a CUT - probably with R4 treads rather than turf. A few people already responded and suggested other models - example a Kubota B2910 - but since I have to mow over my septic tank - I don't want to go "too big" (not that my wife will likely let me in any event!) - because I'd like to keep the weight down.
So sizing everything up - I think the Kubotas offer the most "bang for the buck" - pound for pound - and able to adapt if my future needs (ex. backhoe) change. But I want to know if there is any other things worth considering....I don't mind spending more - but my wife thinks the extra $3K isn't worth it.
Any thoughts / suggestions on the JD2210 vs K B7500 would be appreciated!
Thanx in advance,
Dan
I originally posted in lildozers' "2210 or BX2230" thread - because I felt I had similar needs - but GregJ suggested that I start a new thread - so here I am! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
****************************
I've been thinking about getting a CUT for several years - even visited a few local dealers and picked up brochures - but any discussion with my wife would quickly (usually before I finished my first sentence! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif ) end in NO!
However, time goes on...people change...my wife turned 40...and suddenly she starts talking about "how much work we have..." and "we're not getting any younger..." - so now we're looking for a compact tractor! Woohoo! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So I've been lurking around TBN for the past few weeks - great site btw - and am posting to get a bit of feedback - trying to decide between a JD 2210 and Kubota B7500
****************************
First my needs / situation:
> 11 acres - 7 wooded / 4 cleared / 2 - 3 mowed (fairly flat)
> need to replace an old 38" Sears riding mower this year
> plan on landscaping @ 1 additional acre in upcoming years (somewhat rocky - see "stone walls" below - but otherwise fairly flat)
> moving between 2-4 12-wheeler loads of gravel and *graded base* for driveway extension (@ 150 ft) & landscaping / pathways
> Yearly wood pellet (on 1 ton pallets) handling (I don't expect to move full tons at once!) - between 10-20 tons / year
> Yearly leaf / brush pickup
> Possible removal of existing asphalt driveway & replace with gravel (@ 200' overall length / incl. oval-shaped turn around)
****************************
So - we've visited the local JD & Kubota dealers.....and found there's a *barely used* (41 hours) JD 2210 with FEL available for @ $10,500 - toss in a 54" MMM and taxes - call it $13K
But....
I am leaning more towards a Kubota B7500 *leftover* (new) - or (insert miracle of choice here) - a new B7610. The B7500 would come in just under $16K - but the "Approval Committee" is not happy because of the $3K diff. However the B7500 would include a used bagger with the MMM setup - nice for the fall cleanup....
****************************
Now, when I price "new vs new" - then we have a real close matchup: $15.3K for the JD 2210 and @ $16K for the K B7500 - a difference of only $700.
I've attached a worksheet (Adobe PDF format) showing the size / features / price between the following CUT models:
John Deere 2210 / 4110
Kubota B7500 / B7510 / B7610
New Holland TC24
****************************
My arguments in favor of the Kubota are:
- longer warranty (3 vs 2 year)
- (somewhat) larger loader capacity (770 vs 620 # at pivot)
- higher total hydraulic flow (7.0 vs. 5.5 gpm)
- higher ground clearance (12.0 vs 7.7 in)
- backhoe capable in the future if needed
Just *dreaming* aloud - but a new B7610 (@ $17.2K) vs new JD2210 is only ~ $1800 difference - but the B7610 has the next bigger FEL - @ 925 # at pivot - which would, in my opinion - cover 90+% of my loader needs.
****************************
My primary concern with the JD 2210 is the FEL loader cap - I don't mind "making more trips" - but if I come across a good sized rock - I'd prefer the extra muscle on hand - rather than having to rent a TLB. This is New England - our stone walls didn't fall from the sky.... I'm also a little concerned with the lower ground clearance on the 2210.
I also realize that most of my *needs* will likely take place in the first few years of ownership (favoring Kubota w 3 yr warranty) - and that if I *only* had mowing to do, with some scattered FEL work - I wouldn't even be asking! I'd have the JD 2210 in my garage already!
I've rented a decent sized JD (@ 40 HP?) TLB twice in the past: 1) to spread gravel around our pool and did some rock landscaping with the backhoe and 2) put in @ 120' access road using graded base.
This chewed up the lawn fairly well in a few spots - the weight + the Ag tires - so I know I want a CUT - probably with R4 treads rather than turf. A few people already responded and suggested other models - example a Kubota B2910 - but since I have to mow over my septic tank - I don't want to go "too big" (not that my wife will likely let me in any event!) - because I'd like to keep the weight down.
So sizing everything up - I think the Kubotas offer the most "bang for the buck" - pound for pound - and able to adapt if my future needs (ex. backhoe) change. But I want to know if there is any other things worth considering....I don't mind spending more - but my wife thinks the extra $3K isn't worth it.
Any thoughts / suggestions on the JD2210 vs K B7500 would be appreciated!
Thanx in advance,
Dan