Redneck in training
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ah, the wild world of government subsidies. Other people are stealing from me, so I must steal from other people. Looters mentality. As long as you are less of a crook than someone you know, you feel righteous.
It's a race to see who can get the most welfare while still complaining about those "deadbeats" (read: other people) who get welfare.
Funny, I never thought of theft as an investment.
Sorry, am I not being civil enough? Thank you for making my taxes higher to offset your welfare. There now you can feel all better.
I do think it is great to see solar getting popular, but not at taxpayer expense. People requiring the addition of welfare credits in order to make the cost feasible just goes to show solar simply isn't yet meant for people who have other power options.
Right now, at rates of $0.13 per/kwh, solar isn't an investment, it's an alternative, only the welfare check makes it pay off. Besides the green-ness, it isn't yet value added. There is very little, if any, net gain with current technology, as redneck's power output and monetary math reveals.
In other words, unless your per kilowatt costs are far higher, just steal from your neighbors and forget the array. The result is the same, just with slightly more carbon emissions and far less red tape.
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You are a first guy I know off who refused to take tax break for children and house mortgage. It is government policy to encourage socially beneficial programs such as house ownership, having children and in my case install alt energy system. In fact I would do it even if there is no subsidy. It will pay for itself without it too just three years longer. Our rate is 10.9 cent/kWh btw. Solar (if you can install it DIY) makes financial sense even without subsidy. If I invest 53K and get 3600/year back that is 6.8% ROI without subsidy and 9.5% with it. I also bet that electric rates will go up. US generating capacity is close to maximum so building new generating capacity and transmission lines is unavoidable. I bet it will be taxpayer subsidized too and we will be still hit with higher rates. I bet that electric rates will go up faster than inflation. If you don't want to take the subsidy you don't have to. It still makes sense to go solar.
Domush. I looked at your tractor restoration. You are very capable guy. You can install solar just with some simple guidance. You should check the numbers.
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