RobJ said:
See my above post, you can't mix price increase with better product. Much of what we buy today is going up in price, a lot of it is due to fuel costs, nothing to do with a better product. I'm not saying it wasn't a better tractor at all. But if I go to my favorite restraunt and the prices are 20% higher, it doesn't mean the food is 20% better.
Where I grew up around tractors the Masseys were considered an expensive tractor anyway. Kind of a rich mans tractor. No one had them because of that. Again, don't confuse that statement that they were not good tractors.
And re-read MY post if you would, carefully too. You'll not see where I said it was 20% better because it was 20% more expensive. It WAS/IS a better tractor without a doubt. MUCH better engine performance. No comparison. What I was commenting on was the fact that with ONLY the change of engine configuration, there was a 20% price increase in one single model year. That would be economic suicide for any reason without a marked improvement in the tractor itself. The price increase was the direct result of increased production cost passed on to the end user. Instead of commiting suicide, they then produced what was the worlds best selling line of utility tractors of its day. When the price increase came down, the engine change was still brand new.
Popularity had NOTHING to do with the increase, seeing as to how no one knew what sort of tractor the Perkins powered Masseys would turn out to be.
In actuality, with the dramatic increase in fuel efficiency, longevity of the engine, and extremely good resale value of Massey's smaller utilities (those with Perkins diesels) I'd venture a subjective guess it was substancially MORE than a "20% better tractor", but that's just my opinion..... And that of several million others who bought new Masseys back then, over other popular brands.
Not sure where you're from, but Masseys of that era were far less expensive than most anything else on the market. I shopped them out with every major brand. John Deere 2020's sold for almost $1000 more. IH 454 was higher than that. To this day, Massey's strongest selling point is they're less expensive than competing brands.
And if "no one had them because of that", please explain why the 135 Massey was the worlds best selling tractor throughout it's production run. Why is Massey STILL the best selling brand of tractor worldwide, ESPECIALLY in underdeveloped (read empoverished) countries?
BECAUSE THEY AREN'T a "rich mans tractor". No idea on this earth where that comment came from. Certainly not from facts as they present themselves.
You're expressing opinions, where I'm merely commenting on facts backed up with solid sales numbers, (along with solid RE-sale numbers) and MILLIONS of happy owners worldwide.