Copied from another venue, this post seems to indicate the Green machines have their 3ph backhoe problems as well.
Re: JD Warranty [ Compact Tractor Message Board ]
Posted by Skillet Licker on December 28, 1998 at 01:55:30:
In Reply to: Re: JD Warranty posted by Kubota Man on December 28, 1998 at 00:28:38:
There was an interesting thread on the Machinery Forum this past spring concerning the subject of a new John Deere 4100
with a dealer installed Woods 3 pt back-hoe breaking the rear differental housing and twisting the lift arm mounts beyond
reasonable repair . The poster was really distraught(as he should have been)and claimed the dealer had not informed of
the Deere 4100's inablility to make use of the Woods back-hoe they had sold him with the tractor.I forget whice model of
Woods they installed,but if the dealer put it on,I would expect it would been a proper size for this tractor... If remember
correctly he also claimed he only used this set-up on 4 separate occasions and the last one was when the differental
housing broke and the lower lift arms contorted under the torque of the digging action..All of this was a posted by a guy
who also claimed the have owned at least 12 compact tractors of various makes and models and stated this was a first in
his experience as a landscape contractor..He complained the dealer he'd bought it from was kind of jerking him around for
a while,stalling and not wanting to do the work,(in whice the repair bill would have been covered by the factory)....Finally
after much complaining,and many phone calls, a Deere factory rep became involved and in the end Deere and company
bought back the 4100 and the Woods back-hoe as well..
I don't have a clue as to what the factory stance is on the subject, and I'm not taking sides in this thread...But I have looked
at both the 4100 and 4200 side by side..And there is no way I would ever attempt to mount a back-hoe on the 4100 without
a subframe installed..The 4200 on the other hand was really well designed in the lower lift mounting pin area of the 3 pt
hitch..compared to the 4100..I'd say it got twice the R&D.
just my 2 cents on this subject.
Skillet