Herb Richards
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- Sep 16, 2018
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- Tractor
- 4720-3720-720
I'm thinking of buying a new 4066R. Is there any good or bad items with this model?
I almost bought the 4720, seat for sure was more comfortable and at the time it was only about 3 or 4k more.
I have a bum right arm, makes hooking up implements very difficult for me, and I have lost count how many times I have gotten up into the Kubota cab, and down, up and down, to hook up an implement. Even if you open the rear window you can't reach the hydraulic controls. Extendable forks are a huge improvement (my Masseys don't have them) as my days of horsing a heavy disc around with a crow bar to line things up are coming to a close.
It looks like JD is doing what the car folks have done. Bring all the extra features down to a smaller package.
And if they can get someone to pay fifty grand for what arguably isn't a very large tractor, and everyone goes home happy, well
why not. I bought a new Audi Q5 when I could have paid literally half for a Chevrolet. Sit inside one and you know you are in a very different car.
Was it worth it buying by the pound? When I could have bought a loaded used Suburban instead? That would have held 8 passengers instead of 5?
those 5E JD's I thought were only open cabs and most came from India, like my Massey. Somewhat crude but unbreakable. Just like farmers want them. I also think they are one of the best looking tractors out there, honest looking. (I also like NH Workmasters design) But after driving my all manual Massey for hours on end out in the fields, I'm ready for some cruise control and a/c thank you. And to afford that, yes I have to buy a smaller tractor. What do I really want?
A JD 6M. That would be a lottery ticket tractor for me.
I always liked the cloth seat on the JD. Kept you from sliding around. Kubota's oem seats are just dreadful, hard as rocks. My neighbor borrowed my Kubota yesterday for three hours and mentioned when he brought it back his butt was numb. Once you've had a decent suspension seat, even the inexpensive Michigan seat ones, not the expensive Grammers, hard to go back to a stock seat. Remember I'm a senior with severe arthritis and looking for some comfort in my ride. Otherwise I couldn't use the tractor.
Long winded reply to suggest there is a shoe for every foot. Could anyone consider a "gold plated" R model to be high value?
Not likely, unless....it had a feature that just made your day. And every day you used your tractor.
Number one reason I bought the Kubota instead of the JD was that the dealer was closer and better, returned phone calls promptly, acted like they were interested in my business. Well I guess times haven't changed. I left a message for the only JD salesman yesterday morning to call me back about a new tractor, and no return phone call by end of day.
I almost bought the 4720, seat for sure was more comfortable and at the time it was only about 3 or 4k more.
I have a bum right arm, makes hooking up implements very difficult for me, and I have lost count how many times I have gotten up into the Kubota cab, and down, up and down, to hook up an implement. Even if you open the rear window you can't reach the hydraulic controls. Extendable forks are a huge improvement (my Masseys don't have them) as my days of horsing a heavy disc around with a crow bar to line things up are coming to a close.
It looks like JD is doing what the car folks have done. Bring all the extra features down to a smaller package.
And if they can get someone to pay fifty grand for what arguably isn't a very large tractor, and everyone goes home happy, well
why not. I bought a new Audi Q5 when I could have paid literally half for a Chevrolet. Sit inside one and you know you are in a very different car.
Was it worth it buying by the pound? When I could have bought a loaded used Suburban instead? That would have held 8 passengers instead of 5?
those 5E JD's I thought were only open cabs and most came from India, like my Massey. Somewhat crude but unbreakable. Just like farmers want them. I also think they are one of the best looking tractors out there, honest looking. (I also like NH Workmasters design) But after driving my all manual Massey for hours on end out in the fields, I'm ready for some cruise control and a/c thank you. And to afford that, yes I have to buy a smaller tractor. What do I really want?
A JD 6M. That would be a lottery ticket tractor for me.
I always liked the cloth seat on the JD. Kept you from sliding around. Kubota's oem seats are just dreadful, hard as rocks. My neighbor borrowed my Kubota yesterday for three hours and mentioned when he brought it back his butt was numb. Once you've had a decent suspension seat, even the inexpensive Michigan seat ones, not the expensive Grammers, hard to go back to a stock seat. Remember I'm a senior with severe arthritis and looking for some comfort in my ride. Otherwise I couldn't use the tractor.
Long winded reply to suggest there is a shoe for every foot. Could anyone consider a "gold plated" R model to be high value?
Not likely, unless....it had a feature that just made your day. And every day you used your tractor.
Number one reason I bought the Kubota instead of the JD was that the dealer was closer and better, returned phone calls promptly, acted like they were interested in my business. Well I guess times haven't changed. I left a message for the only JD salesman yesterday morning to call me back about a new tractor, and no return phone call by end of day.
my interest was solely sparked by the new availability of external hitch controls and tractor motion on rear fender.
For me it's not a bell or whistle at all, for many it would be.
And it's never, to my knowledge, been available on a SCUT or even a CUT.
There are no 4R's available locally apparently. Dealer told me to wait until October when new announcements were coming out.
Can't imagine with tariff realities any new news can avoid an announcement on price increases.
Bottom line is there are currently zero incentives on buying a 4R. No discounts, no cheap financing.
I'm guessing they can't build them fast enough.
I need a hydrostatic transmission due to not being able to regularly clutch using my legs due to cramping; with hydro I can drive with a hand control. Only time I use the clutch is to start the tractor.
That limits me to the 60hp range, and this JD is the highest hp rated hydrostatic I believe currently available.
put a hydro trans on a 5E with a cab and I'd likely buy it tomorrow. Of course, does it have those nice little rear controls?
But price an upper end 5 series to get comparable features and the price just becomes totally unaffordable. And for all I know Agco is charging the same but JD sure has the reputation for being the highest price brand out there.
A comparable Massey is an Iseki, a NH a ? Shibauru? A Kubota is a Kubota, only one like Deere like that, and almost unique in making all its
own smaller tractors. Everyone else is designing hood labels.
I agree the 5E's are heavier frame Indian tractors made to the highest spec and offer very high value, supported by
usually top notch service. They and the NH Workmasters seem to occupy a similar space.